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Old 02-22-2006, 07:46 PM
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Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:00 PM ET


SAN FRANCISCO, Feb 22 (Reuters) - Frontier Airlines on Wednesday said it made a firm order for six new Airbus A320 aircraft and an exchange of eight existing A319 aircraft orders for four A318 and four A320 orders.


The Denver-based carrier said the order introduces the A320 to Frontier's existing fleet plan and extends its growth plan into fiscal year 2011 from its previous last delivery date of March 2008.


At the end of 2011, Frontier's fleet will have 11 A318 aircraft, 49 A319s and 10 A320s.


The financial terms for the new orders were not disclosed.


Frontier said its first A320 is scheduled for delivery in 2008, with remaining deliveries continuing through 2011.
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How common are the A318, A319, and A320. I know each holds about 12 more seats than the next. What about cockpit (crew training) and maintenance costs?

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The A-318, 319, 320, and 321 are all the same type rating. A pilot with an A-320 type can fly any of the aircraft in this family without any differences training. I know specifically that the A-319 is 7 frames shorter than the A-320, and at least in the NWA configuration, seat 124 and 148 pax respectively (with a small first class section). I have seen A-320 configurations though that seat up to 168 pax. For all intents and purposes, these 4 aircraft are all the same with only minor differences in length. Not to mention that a transition to an A-330, A-340, or even an A-380 can be accomplished in as little as 10 days. The fleet commonality of the Airbus family greatly reduces training costs.
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
The A-318, 319, 320, and 321 are all the same type rating. A pilot with an A-320 type can fly any of the aircraft in this family without any differences training. I know specifically that the A-319 is 7 frames shorter than the A-320, and at least in the NWA configuration, seat 124 and 148 pax respectively (with a small first class section). I have seen A-320 configurations though that seat up to 168 pax. For all intents and purposes, these 4 aircraft are all the same with only minor differences in length. Not to mention that a transition to an A-330, A-340, or even an A-380 can be accomplished in as little as 10 days. The fleet commonality of the Airbus family greatly reduces training costs.
Yah thats one of the best features of having an all airbus fleet. 19-20-21 are all on the same rating and 30 and 40 is just a small transition course. Of coarse the initial 320 course is over 2 months long, after that you can almost fly the entire airbus family. Does anyone know if the A318 uses the same rating as the rest of the 320 family?
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The thread you quoted answers you question.

Also lowers costs on ground handling equipment and training of rampers as well.
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oops. I missed that . It was real late and i was tired.
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Originally Posted by Linebacker35
Yah thats one of the best features of having an all airbus fleet. 19-20-21 are all on the same rating and 30 and 40 is just a small transition course. Of coarse the initial 320 course is over 2 months long, after that you can almost fly the entire airbus family. Does anyone know if the A318 uses the same rating as the rest of the 320 family?
Good for saving on training costs, stinks for trying to negotiate a pay rate.
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Good for saving on training costs, stinks for trying to negotiate a pay rate.
Yah I think I remember hearing AC was having a hell of a time trying to sort the pay rates out with the Union.
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Frontier Just announced they are starting service to Calgary, Canada. First american low cost carrier to do so. Not looking good for them though. They are going head to head with United on this route. I believe they are starting with one flight to United's four. Plus United has its massive codeshare program with aircanada.
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