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Jumpseating and the AWESOME TSA
Here's the deal:
I travel and jumpseat out of my uniform quite a bit because if I dont have to wear my uniform, it's way more comfortable and I wont. With that said, I ALWAYS travel in slacks, and a nice long sleeved business casual shirt. Professional looking in my opinion. Lately when I go through security (The defenders of our country the TSA) I get hassled about needing a boarding pass. Obviously if there is 7 flights to where I am trying to get to and I dont know what flight I will make, I DONT have a boarding pass......just my Airline Crew ID. They always ask me..."Are you working?" I respond "No, I am jumpseating, I will get my boarding pass at the gate" Do they really not understand this. I mean really? I am a crewmember, I am trying to get to work when I start tomorrow, I dont want to wear my uniform, I look professional and good enough to sit in the actual (as allowed by captains) and yet these clowns harass me about not having a boarding pass? Has anyone else encountered this? Do they not understand jumpseating? I strongly dislike the TSA and how they talk down to people so maybe I am biased but up till about three months ago, I never had a problem......and now they want to see a boarding pass all the time. Any thoughts? |
I usually just get a security pass from the ticket agents outside of security. It's easier not to fight with these idiots because they could really care less about what you're doing, where you're going, or why. All they know is no liquids, computers out, and boarding passes in hand.
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Originally Posted by clearandcold
(Post 404584)
It's easier not to fight with these idiots because they could really care less about what you're doing,
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Would you expect anything less from graduates from the B.F. Skinner Institute of Learning. He proved, not just rodents, but even Neanderthals can be taught basic tasks.
Skinner influenced education as well as psychology. He was quoted as saying, "Teachers must learn how to teach... they need only to be taught more effective ways of teaching." Skinner asserted that positive reinforcement is more effective at changing and establishing behaviour than punishment, with obvious implications for the then widespread practice of rote learning and punitive discipline in education. Skinner also suggests that the main thing people learn from being punished is how to avoid getting punished the next time. Skinner says that there are 5 main obstacles in learning: 1. People have a fear of failure 2. There is a lack of directions 3. There is also a lack of clarity in the direction 4. Positive reinforcement is not used enough 5. The task is not broken down into small enough steps Skinner suggests that with all of the obstacles out of the way any age appropriate skill can be taught using his 5 principles: 1. Have small steps 2. Work from most simple to most complex tasks 3. Repeat the directions as many times as possible 4. Give immediate feedback 5. Give positive reinforcement |
The actual TSA rule is that if your airline serves that airport you don't need a boarding pass. If your airline does not serve that airport then they can require you to have one. ALPA is working hard to get the entire system changed so that we can go to work without having to go through the security system using the CASS system they came up with for the jumpseat. Working these issues at the national level takes time but there is some hope it may be online before the end of the year.
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tongue in cheek
What ever happened to the kindler gentler TSA we were promised ?:rolleyes:
Fly it like you stole it ! |
Originally Posted by Lalo37
(Post 404575)
Here's the deal:
I travel and jumpseat out of my uniform quite a bit because if I dont have to wear my uniform, it's way more comfortable and I wont. With that said, I ALWAYS travel in slacks, and a nice long sleeved business casual shirt. Professional looking in my opinion. Lately when I go through security (The defenders of our country the TSA) I get hassled about needing a boarding pass. Obviously if there is 7 flights to where I am trying to get to and I dont know what flight I will make, I DONT have a boarding pass......just my Airline Crew ID. They always ask me..."Are you working?" I respond "No, I am jumpseating, I will get my boarding pass at the gate" Do they really not understand this. I mean really? I am a crewmember, I am trying to get to work when I start tomorrow, I dont want to wear my uniform, I look professional and good enough to sit in the actual (as allowed by captains) and yet these clowns harass me about not having a boarding pass? Has anyone else encountered this? Do they not understand jumpseating? I strongly dislike the TSA and how they talk down to people so maybe I am biased but up till about three months ago, I never had a problem......and now they want to see a boarding pass all the time. Any thoughts? TSA is one HUGE waste of money. That said, I get the same thing, its annoying as hell, and they end up letting me through anyways... so why bother even asking???? I hate the lack of common sense this whole system has. Makes traveling in my opinion 50% less pleasurable and a PITA for everyone. Everytime I pass through "security" I feel like I just walked out of a hurricane. Bunch of clowns. |
Those clowns are the product of our nation's educational system. You can find them everywhere from TSA to Wal-Mart. We are outnumbered in this country by these 'clowns' and its becoming more and more evident to me each day.
I guess all we can do is try to do a good job with our kids. |
I guess my issue with the Thousands Standing Around is lack of normal procedures. Why at some airports you need a security doc, some you don't regardless of airlines serving. Half of them never heard of AWAC and just let me by anyway. Why do some tell you to take the shoes off even if you are in uniform? Why do they have only 1 line open in LGA but 10 people working one line? Why do they look at me cross eyed when I tell them I am jumpseating on a carrier other than one I work for? That really confuses them. Last but not least I think they make more money than I do. Nice.
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Simply tell them that you are jumpseating and that jumpseating has a title attached to it. It is call "Additional Crew Member".
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