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Old 06-20-2008 | 10:16 AM
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The 737NG outclimbs, out cruises and flies farther than the A320. The difference is that Airbus is subsidized and as such it gives some sweetheart deals that Boeing may not be able to do. As far as overall costs go, Boeing 727s are still being used by FedEx and DHL. The 757s will be around for a long time. How many original A300s are left? The A320 original aircraft may not be long for this world either. I think from a passenger perspective, Airbus builds a great product. But for longevity, nothin' beats a Boeing.
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Old 06-20-2008 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The bus is a lighter aircraft compared to the 737, but from a pilots perspective the Boeing product has been and always will be a pilots airplane. I love em!
Now if Delta had just bothered to put a cockpit VOX or hot intercom in the 737NGs, you'd have a perfect airplane! The 737 cockpit is very cramped compared to the 320, and the least Boeing could have done was to try to make up for that fact by making it quieter than the competition.

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Shame on Boeing for making such a noisy cockpit in the 21st century.
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Old 06-20-2008 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
The 737NG outclimbs, out cruises and flies farther than the A320. The difference is that Airbus is subsidized and as such it gives some sweetheart deals that Boeing may not be able to do. As far as overall costs go, Boeing 727s are still being used by FedEx and DHL. The 757s will be around for a long time. How many original A300s are left? The A320 original aircraft may not be long for this world either. I think from a passenger perspective, Airbus builds a great product. But for longevity, nothin' beats a Boeing.
NWA has already parked some of their original A-320s.

The DC-9-50s are all older than those buses.

Now of course it is due to costs and such but still, there are DC-9s outlasting A-320s.
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Old 06-20-2008 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by contrails
NWA has already parked some of their original A-320s.

The DC-9-50s are all older than those buses.

Now of course it is due to costs and such but still, there are DC-9s outlasting A-320s.
Well, I guess I have to admit that compared to all manufacturers, nothing outlasts Douglas'. There are still a ton of -8s flying around and the -9s and MD-80s still keep chugging along. I believe ABX is still flying the old engined DC-8s around. And lest we forget, go to some of the FL airports or Michigan airports and you will still find the beloved DC-3 making money for cargo outfits nearly 75 years after they were built. I'm 36 now, and wouldn't be surprised if the DC-3s and -8s outlast me.
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Old 06-20-2008 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The bus is a lighter aircraft compared to the 737, but from a pilots perspective the Boeing product has been and always will be a pilots airplane. I love em!
Actually the bus is heavier: 319 max gross 167.3 compared to the 73-7 154.5???
321 max gross 207.1 compared to the 73-9 174.2???

The Boeing has a more "dampened" feel compared to Bus

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Old 06-20-2008 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails
NWA has already parked some of their original A-320s.

The DC-9-50s are all older than those buses.

Now of course it is due to costs and such but still, there are DC-9s outlasting A-320s.
The joke going around NWA was that when the last Airbus was parked, the crew would deadhead home on a DC-9.
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Old 06-20-2008 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DigDug
. I am very proud of the true piloting skills I possess that are dulled every day I fly a bus and which are being watered down in every transport today thanks to the advancing automation. The automation is great stuff I love to play with ...and I resent every minute that goes by as it waters down the profession's value and skill.
Funny ...someone told me that the best way to be a good Pilot when you are flying an Airbus....Start out as an Excellent pilot...cause your skills will fade fast.

I have to admit having flown the 737-200 I came to the bus with a lot of misconceptions and preconcived notions. I have to honestly say I like flying the bus better. This of course is based totally on MY physical comfort.
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Old 06-20-2008 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
The joke going around NWA was that when the last Airbus was parked, the crew would deadhead home on a DC-9.
On the topic of jokes, the difference between a pilot new to the airbus and one with airbus experience;

New pilot: "Whats it doing? Where's it going?"

Experienced pilot: "There it goes AGAIN!"
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Old 06-20-2008 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NoSoupForYou
Shame on Boeing for making such a noisy cockpit in the 21st century.
That's the problem. It's not "made" in the 21st century. It was made in the 1960's. I don't care when it comes off the assembly line. It is an old design. Boeing is lucky the 737 has done this well.
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Old 06-20-2008 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by III Corps

As for the NGs, that is the genius of Kelleher. He forced Boeing to make him a mini-757 so he could go coast to coast, higher, faster and longer AND IT STILL BE A 737. Brilliant.

I think the boys at "LUV" field had a little more input on the NG's
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