737 vs 320
07-09-2008 | 09:15 PM
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Not true at all. If I wanted, I was able to cruise at .80 in the Bus all day long, and could get faster if we needed it. The only NG's I've flown are 700s, and they do indeed burn less gas...but they carry 19 less people.
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07-09-2008 | 09:36 PM
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The thrust levers on the 737 doesn't move either. (We don't have the autothrottles hooked up yet...) 
I don't think that is correct. Nothing exotic or special about the stability. You can shut down ALL the FBW computers and still fly the machine. It is a high workload but with all the electricity OFF the airplane does not go unstable. I had a chance to fly a 320 with all the stuff off... and am here to write about it.
As for the NGs, that is the genius of Kelleher. He forced Boeing to make him a mini-757 so he could go coast to coast, higher, faster and longer AND IT STILL BE A 737. Brilliant.
As one who flew both (737 and 'bus) what was/is your opinion of the non-moving thrust levers on the 'bus? I thought it was a non-issue but for some, it is a BIG issue.
As for the NGs, that is the genius of Kelleher. He forced Boeing to make him a mini-757 so he could go coast to coast, higher, faster and longer AND IT STILL BE A 737. Brilliant.
As one who flew both (737 and 'bus) what was/is your opinion of the non-moving thrust levers on the 'bus? I thought it was a non-issue but for some, it is a BIG issue.
07-09-2008 | 09:41 PM
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The 737 definitely does NOT outcruise the 320.
The 737NG outclimbs, out cruises and flies farther than the A320. The difference is that Airbus is subsidized and as such it gives some sweetheart deals that Boeing may not be able to do. As far as overall costs go, Boeing 727s are still being used by FedEx and DHL. The 757s will be around for a long time. How many original A300s are left? The A320 original aircraft may not be long for this world either. I think from a passenger perspective, Airbus builds a great product. But for longevity, nothin' beats a Boeing.
07-09-2008 | 09:46 PM
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07-09-2008 | 09:51 PM
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Then I guess I imagined all of those tech stops I used to do in the 320? If there's a stiff headwind, forget about going transcon...
Well, The A320 does have a less cramped cockpit, but I guess that dosen't have anything to do with preformance/profits. The A320 has a lot more range than the 737. It, however does depend on what 737 variant your talking about. If your talking about the 100/200/300/400 or 500 then the A320 would be 100% more profitable but if your talking about the 737NG's then it would be close.
07-10-2008 | 03:18 AM
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Sac... little carried away with the "123" deal?
I never said that a bus would not cruise "all day long" at .80.... it just seems like .78 is the norm while the 73ng's seem to be .79-80.... just my observation. In fact, it always seem like the last leg home it (the bus) will do .81 fairly well
What ever a/c gives you the best QOL is better...... as far as I'm concerned.
Cheers,
Breckster
I never said that a bus would not cruise "all day long" at .80.... it just seems like .78 is the norm while the 73ng's seem to be .79-80.... just my observation. In fact, it always seem like the last leg home it (the bus) will do .81 fairly well
What ever a/c gives you the best QOL is better...... as far as I'm concerned.
Cheers,
Breckster
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