You aren't serious, are you? Because IMHO, it will never happen.

 

Fireman0714, are you serious? The pilot group at NWA will never approve that TA. Not only are they financially penalized for calling in sick, the company wants to remove the Captain augmentation for long-haul 2-pilot a/c flying (B747-400 TPAC, A330 TPAC/TATL), reduce the blockholder monthly minimum and eliminate all open flying during the regular monthly bid run.

Problems? I see plenty. First of all, the elimination of full pay for sick time is not going to sit well with our most senior pilots. Imagine your 2nd sick call in a year is for a 12-day trans-pacific trip on the -400. It would be your only trip in the month and now if you call in sick you'll be paid 3/4 of what you could actually make? No dice.

The removal of the captain augmentation clause means that all First Officers on the 747-400 and A330 will now have to be type rated on the aircraft means a lot of extra training and expense, that the company cannot afford considering the rest of the cutbacks proposed.

If any open flying is eliminated during the bid run, that will reek havoc with Detroit, considering 90% of the pilots based there commute, and build their schedule around commuter-friendly trips......

I could go on for days, but I don't have the time. This TA is a piece of junk, and it'll never fly.

 

Steal'in took the worst part of UAL and USA consessions and made them worse for us.

 

The 23.9% paycut we took in Nov was to last "only" 2 months. It's permanent now. No more salary cuts.

 

Perhaps if they did away with open time they could keep more pilots working instead of on furlough?

SKyHigh

 

Eros and Maxjet do. And lets not forget all the asian and european companies that are ready to jump in.

 

The changes could be very inconvenient, but so is unemployment. I don't know if the guys who are on furlough have a say but my guess is that they don't care about captain sick leave issues right now. They just want their jobs back.

SkyHigh

 

I'll bet anything that they won't do away with open time. Right now, there are 4 pages of open trips on the DTW A320 f/0 board. 13 trips departing 8-12 march alone. Last month, they were calling up captains to sit in the f/0 seat to fly some trips. It's not the schedulers fault. That's how NWA works. It's cheaper to use reserves and let pilots to pick from the open board than to "rehire" furloughed pilots. I don't like it, but that how things are done.

 

Much of your proposed contract changes appear to be what the UAL pilots currently work under. Some as a result of the two bankruptcy modifications and some were in place beforehand, the crew augmentation issue being one.

I’ll be very surprised if the T/A fails, but of course a lot depends on what and how your MEC handles the tentative.

Still, my $$$ is on it passing.

 

Skyhigh....IMHO...it's not those specific items; total 39% paycut...1/2 pay for dead head....sick call policy and pay....hotel changes taht are show stoppers. If the company is able to fly 76-100 seat jets under the NEWCO banner ( and that isn't clear yet) then our brothers and sisters who are furloughed will never come back. We will be voting NO for them, not for those other items. NWA pilots are willing to fly the 70-100 seat jets for low rates, we just want to be able to do it...is that asking too much?...BTW how did your cabinet hanging go?