...Except that we employ thermonuclear weapons on the aircraft we fly in the military. That requires a little more thorough check than the one we go through to get a job at an airline...and it needs to be updated every so often as well. It is, in fact, quite different with regard to the "job" being done.

B2P

I Wish It Wasn't Like This
 

Gabriel,

I hate to say it but methinks you are out of luck. I certainly wish that you could have some access to our flightdecks, but it isn't going to happen. I fear that ZED style fares are all that might be available to you. Good luck. I wish we had more authority over our jumpseats as I wish you guys had similar.

YF

Oh YF, Thank you for the answer.

I can see it. Unfortunetally nowadays we're having more rigid rules.

What type of aircraft do you fly? Where are you based in?

I'm flying B737-300 at Gol. I got my ICAO English level 4 (the minimum for intl flughts) but I'd like to improve my English skills.

Att. Gabriel.

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To answer you, Skype me yankeefly69 ;-)

I am an RJ flight instructor and ex RJ Captain at the most loved US regional...MESA

;-)

YF

It doesn't matter if the check is more thorough. Like you said, it needs to be updated and pilots with previous jobs that involved high security clearances are no different and definitely not infallible.

Any new-hire at an airline should go through the background checks....no matter how thorough their past checks. Like I said, when it comes to brass tacks, it is no different from the military.

The end result is not, but the method is...as you just admitted. That was my only point...like I said. I simply disagreed with your assertion that the checks are no different in the military...you have no idea what a military background check involves. I have been through both processes. We are held to a higher standard during military background checks...necessarily so when dealing with heavily-armed aircraft. This isn't a mil vs. civ contest...it's just reality. We may not be infallible, but if we screw up with nukes the "brass tacks" results are off the scale in disaster potential.

B2P

So when is this crewpass deal going to go system wide again?

On the second photo ID thing, show them your airport SIDA badge. Don't let any TSA agent tell you it is not government issued--unless the airport you're based at is not owned/operated by that city.

Quite true. If you Airport/ Company badge has a SIDA included in it, is also considered a government issued ID. Like ours are.

You missed my point. I do know what is involved with higher security clearances and background checks and I never meant that they're the same as an airline's background check. What I said;

Perhaps I should have worded that last sentence better; It is no different for new-hires from the military, nor should it be.

And no, I'm not trying to turn this into a military vs. civilian contest and the "brass tacks" of this thread has nothing to do with your scenario about screwing up with nukes.

My post was in reply to a post that implied an airline background check is redundant because of a security clearance that was held in the past. My point is that the bottom line;
No matter what level of background checks one has been through in the past, due to reasons I stated earlier about no one being infallible, ALL airline new-hires should undergo the same background checks.