Originally Posted by Zapata (Post 450314)

You missed my point. I do know what is involved with higher security clearances and background checks and I never meant that they're the same as an airline's background check.

And no, I'm not trying to turn this into a military vs. civilian contest and the "brass tacks" of this thread has nothing to do with your scenario about screwing up with nukes.

My post was in reply to a post that implied an airline background check is redundant because of a security clearance that was held in the past. My point is that the bottom line;
No matter what level of background checks one has been through in the past, due to reasons I stated earlier about no one being infallible, ALL airline new-hires should undergo the same background checks.

Originally Posted by b2pilot186 (Post 450328)

Nope, you missed my point. I don't care about the rest of your post...I only took issue with one part of it. If your intent was not to lump all background checks into the same pot, you're forgiven for the clumsy use of semantics.

B2P

Originally Posted by Zapata (Post 450735)

You're forgiven for your clumsy comprehension of what was clearly stated in the first post.

Originally Posted by b2pilot186 (Post 450952)

Likewise for your grade-school repartee. Relax kid...just eat your chicken and work your panel. The grown-ups will continue this conversation. ;)

B2P

Originally Posted by stoki (Post 451537)

So does anybody know when crewpass will be in effect at all airports?

Originally Posted by JetFlyer06 (Post 427345)

If anyone tries it out let us know how it works.

Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE (Post 451836)

extra money and resources (extra TSA person to deal with pilots only).

Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE (Post 451836)

I asked a TSA supervisor in my home town and he mentioned a memo he received about the 'trial' being extended to a few more airports in the Spring of '09... It sounds like it might take a while. :(

He said many local branches are fighting this idea because they say it'll cost them extra money and resources (extra TSA person to deal with pilots only). He thinks it's probably more about the basic distrust and dislike between many TSA agents and the pilots which he claims is very real, he said he’s had to ‘counsel’ many of his agents about keeping their feelings about us to themselves; I know this supervisor personally and I'm sure he knows what he's talking about (he’s a former pilot who took an early retirement).