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Fr8doggie 08-06-2008 07:16 PM

It depends on the particular airline. Some are unlimited, some aren't. Fedex on AA isn't, for one.

NZNV 08-07-2008 05:50 AM

I always found it interesting that my company (ASA) served, at the time, 20 int'l destinations, but we could not jumpseat int'l on AA because we were not an int'l carrier. Unfortunatly I am one to hold a grudge when left at the gate in SXM, so I just refunded the $650 one way ticket on AA today and bought a $650 ticket on DL. I bet the bean counters didn't count on that.

Mason32 08-07-2008 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by NZNV (Post 440208)
I always found it interesting that my company (ASA) served, at the time, 20 int'l destinations, but we could not jumpseat int'l on AA because we were not an int'l carrier. Unfortunatly I am one to hold a grudge when left at the gate in SXM, so I just refunded the $650 one way ticket on AA today and bought a $650 ticket on DL. I bet the bean counters didn't count on that.


They don't care.

Rotorhead 08-07-2008 07:27 AM

Maybe OAL Captains will just start denying AA and Eagle pilots jumpseats at all. When AMR is at complete frustration with not being able to fly their schedules then maybe the counter intelligent individual who came up with that policy will catch enough heat coming downhill and go "unlimited" like everyone else.

So glad I left that place...

buddies8 08-07-2008 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by porpilot (Post 439335)
Why is American the only major airline still not allowing unlimited jumpseats. My airline allows unlimited for all carriers including American, yet, we remain on a limited list. I thought we pilots are supposed to take care of one another!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

Limited=number of "limited" jumpseaters is based on the amount of jumpseats in the cockpit.
Unlimited=speaks for itself

because your airline does not have an agrement with aa/ae for unlimited jumpseat. talk to your airline or union reps.


I have posted the jumpseat allowances at the following link to see what each airline has with aa/ae. updated july 2008

select the link and scroll down just a bit and to the left is the pdf icon and select. hope this helps. also if you want to down load it just go further to the bottom and select download.

buddies8's Stuff eSnips Folder

buddies8 08-07-2008 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by embpilot (Post 439352)
I just ran into this the other day in STL. The gate agent asked me if Delta was "unlimited" on American. After a yes, she said, "well, I better check"....whatever...so after she did what she had to do, she explained what the unlimited meant. I think limiting the jumpseat is because it costs the airline some small amount of taxes/fees/other BS surcharges paid to the airport. Similar to why AirTran was charging for the second off line J/S.

yeah for international jumpseat. maybe they should read better.

buddies8 08-07-2008 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Rotorhead (Post 439854)
A nice solution would be if all Captains at all airlines, denied all jumpseaters for about two weeks; the system would get fixed real quick with airliners stuck all over the country. Most airlines have a commuter clause so this wouldn't cause too much pain.

if your airline does not have an agreement with aa/ae for unlimited then may i suggest you contact your union rep and ask them to see what can be done.

gremlin 08-08-2008 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by Rotorhead (Post 440245)
Maybe OAL Captains will just start denying AA and Eagle pilots jumpseats at all. When AMR is at complete frustration with not being able to fly their schedules then maybe the counter intelligent individual who came up with that policy will catch enough heat coming downhill and go "unlimited" like everyone else.

So glad I left that place...

Rotorhead,

AMR would not care. They would discipline all the pilots missing work and that includes calling in sick as they have begun to do already. Jumpseat wars are bull****. The AA/AE pilots need to fight for this one themselves along with all the other crap that has been heaped on them.

So glad I left BOTH of those places...

g

porpilot 08-08-2008 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 440410)
because your airline does not have an agrement with aa/ae for unlimited jumpseat. talk to your airline or union reps.


I have posted the jumpseat allowances at the following link to see what each airline has with aa/ae. updated july 2008

select the link and scroll down just a bit and to the left is the pdf icon and select. hope this helps. also if you want to down load it just go further to the bottom and select download.

buddies8's Stuff eSnips Folder

There are way too many L's on that list. Basically American is not holding up there side of the bargain. I imagine plenty of their pilots commute and enjoy the unlimited seats all other airline allocate to them. If their pilots truly cared, they could get it changed!!!!!

buddies8 08-08-2008 05:36 PM

unfortunately, AE pilots do not control or have a say in the matter. It is directed by AA and APA. If APA wants unlimited seats on all airlines, all they have to do is get reciprocal unlimited on the other airline. AE is lucky not to get thrown of AA planes. AA wont give it unless what they give is equal to what they get. Thats is AA and APA can only push it, AE as I said is lucky we get our jumpseat priority before AA pilots, because at one time our guys were left behind while AA pilots took our jumpseat.


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