Censorship, again
08-07-2008, 11:54 AM
#1
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Censorship, again
There was just a thread discussing the rampant censorship present on this forum, and it lasted about five minutes before it was deleted.
The admins/mods here could have been paid millions to work for the Chinese during the Olympics to squelch discontent and stifle debate.
The admins/mods here could have been paid millions to work for the Chinese during the Olympics to squelch discontent and stifle debate.
Last edited by Spaceman Spliff; 08-07-2008 at 12:08 PM.
08-07-2008, 11:56 AM
#2
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Joined APC: May 2007
Position: G III
Posts: 150
Yup. It gets pretty pathetic 'round here sometimes. I'm sure it will be better with the new owners 
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08-07-2008, 12:09 PM
#3
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: UPS 757/767 Capt ONT
Posts: 4,357
If anyone has a problem with how this site is run, feel free to PM HSLD or Freight Dog. It doesn't belong at the forums.
08-07-2008, 12:10 PM
#4
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
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The posts in question were deleted because they violated the forum TOS.
Send complaints regarding moderation to HSLD or Freight Dog.
Keep in mind that your free speech rights do not apply here. The following post is somewhat dated but is still applicable:
Discretion
What is objectionable to one person may not to be another; the Moderators will use their discretion in this respect. The site Administrators and Moderators carry sole discretion, and their decision will be final. Please respect their decisions. If you have issues with any Moderator decision, contact a Site Mod or Admin through the private message (PM) tool.
What is objectionable to one person may not to be another; the Moderators will use their discretion in this respect. The site Administrators and Moderators carry sole discretion, and their decision will be final. Please respect their decisions. If you have issues with any Moderator decision, contact a Site Mod or Admin through the private message (PM) tool.
Keep in mind that your free speech rights do not apply here. The following post is somewhat dated but is still applicable:
Originally Posted by HSLD
I was recently called a censor for removing a post that very clearly violated the forum rules. I've been called worse, but because there may be some confusion about this resource, I wanted to take a moment to revisit the forum rules and a little background on the APC forum. As the site owner, I want to point out that Airline Pilot Central Forums is a private web site with Terms of Service (TOS) that allow us to remove any user or post for any reason. We've been through the first amendment discussion already, do a search if you need to, but this site is privately owned and your first amendment rights don't apply here.
That said, we have a history of giving users a very wide latitude to express unpopular opinions, waste bandwidth, and even have great dialog with other pilots. We don't charge a fee and we don't require you to look at ads, the owners of this site provide it as a service to the pilot community.
Other forums look to the pilot group as a revenue source, not us, we pay thousands of dollars per year out of pocket to provide pilots what we intend to be a useful resource. We're not funded by a union, airline, or anyone else - it's two pilots footing the bill on their own. We're happy to do it and we not asking for donations, all we ask is for users to observe a few simple rules.
Very simply stated, if users of this board can't abide by the terms of service they agreed to when they registered - go away (on your own or we're happy to show you the door).
As for a self-policing community, this board is what you make it. Our TOS is written to keep the forum a productive, positive, and helpful resource. When the majority of users dictate that personal attacks and low brow dialog is the norm - that'll be the day we throw the forum kill switch and walk away. Users have the ability to privately report violations to the TOS and to publicly post a rebuttal, correction, or admonition (respectfully of course) to violations of the forum rules - again the forum is what you make it.
I firmly believe that differing opinions are healthy, and sometime we might have to agree to disagree. When we disagree, I'd ask if you post here that you check the emotion, and keep it civil.
That said, we have a history of giving users a very wide latitude to express unpopular opinions, waste bandwidth, and even have great dialog with other pilots. We don't charge a fee and we don't require you to look at ads, the owners of this site provide it as a service to the pilot community.
Other forums look to the pilot group as a revenue source, not us, we pay thousands of dollars per year out of pocket to provide pilots what we intend to be a useful resource. We're not funded by a union, airline, or anyone else - it's two pilots footing the bill on their own. We're happy to do it and we not asking for donations, all we ask is for users to observe a few simple rules.
Very simply stated, if users of this board can't abide by the terms of service they agreed to when they registered - go away (on your own or we're happy to show you the door).
As for a self-policing community, this board is what you make it. Our TOS is written to keep the forum a productive, positive, and helpful resource. When the majority of users dictate that personal attacks and low brow dialog is the norm - that'll be the day we throw the forum kill switch and walk away. Users have the ability to privately report violations to the TOS and to publicly post a rebuttal, correction, or admonition (respectfully of course) to violations of the forum rules - again the forum is what you make it.
I firmly believe that differing opinions are healthy, and sometime we might have to agree to disagree. When we disagree, I'd ask if you post here that you check the emotion, and keep it civil.
