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Lighteningspeed 08-29-2008 08:09 AM

Any latest news on NWA hiring
 
Does anyone at NWA have any latest info on the NWA hiring? Reason for this thread is I keep hearing that NWA might restart Flowthrough in the Fall due to the larger staffing requirement after the merger. This seems odd since I have also read that they are planning to park at least 34 DC9s and several A 319/320s. Can't confirm this as this is a second hand info.

Opus 08-29-2008 09:12 AM

We usually don't know about hiring until the month they start doing it. They have kept the airline unbelievably lean. We are projecting to have 150 to 200 more pilots retire before the end of the year. (51 for September perps, with 114 applied with another announcement on/after Sept 6th. with the remainder being projected because of the increased medical costs for retirees under the DAL plan).

But as for hiring? I think that will be all done in ATL after DCC.

Superpilot92 08-29-2008 09:22 AM

it has been mentioned that any hiring between DCC and SOC would be done by NWA HR since we will still be separate operating certificates. Until it happens its all rumor though. I really hope so because i have a few friends in the pool at NWA that i would love to see get brought on. Time will tell

KC10 FATboy 08-29-2008 11:07 AM

Whats the latest that someone interviewed with NWA and was brought onboard? How many people in the pool (if there is one)?

Thanks

sailingfun 08-29-2008 12:51 PM

When Delta purchased Western they assumed all hiring responsibilities in Atlanta at the DCC. Western continued to run new hire classes but they were interviewed and picked in ATL. Pilots Western had interviewed and hired were given class dates even if they were after DCC. The western new hire classes were run because they needed the capacity at the time. When the hiring slowed it all went to Atlanta.

EMBFlyer 08-29-2008 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 452463)
When Delta purchased Western they assumed all hiring responsibilities in Atlanta at the DCC. Western continued to run new hire classes but they were interviewed and picked in ATL. Pilots Western had interviewed and hired were given class dates even if they were after DCC. The western new hire classes were run because they needed the capacity at the time. When the hiring slowed it all went to Atlanta.

So if this were to be the case then, those of us that weren't good enough to be with the high and mighty in ATL, are we "ineligible for reinterview"?

DAL4EVER 08-29-2008 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 452502)
So if this were to be the case then, those of us that weren't good enough to be with the high and mighty in ATL, are we "ineligible for reinterview"?

Depends on what stage of the interview you didn't pass? If it was the actual interview not the testing then you would be ineligible. However, the backdoor could be if NWA hires and you make it on then.

Lighteningspeed 08-29-2008 02:30 PM

These are all good inputs but has anyone heard if the staffing requirement for NWA will be increased despite the reduction of DC9s and A319/320s?
I guess, at this point no one really knows unless they have the inside connection with the top management at NWA or DAL.

EMBFlyer 08-29-2008 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by DAL4EVER (Post 452520)
Depends on what stage of the interview you didn't pass? If it was the actual interview not the testing then you would be ineligible. However, the backdoor could be if NWA hires and you make it on then.

I was told I was not successful in the panel interview at DAL (I have to believe it was poor timing as I was in the last interview group on 3/28). What I was asking was if I were to apply to NWA if they open up the window, but move hiring to ATL, would I be snubbed by "tradition"?

Scoop 08-29-2008 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 452502)
So if this were to be the case then, those of us that weren't good enough to be with the high and mighty in ATL, are we "ineligible for reinterview"?

Considering the tone of your post I can't imagine what the problem is. Keep your chin up, stay current and keep applying - thats all anyone can do - but lose the attitude it won't help.

Scoop

nwaf16dude 08-29-2008 03:10 PM

I don't have any inside knowledge, but I would be extremely surprised if NWA hired any more pilots. The leadership at NWA has been trimming us down to absolute minimum manning in anticipation of this merger for a long time. We had over 6000 pilots at one point. I think we are down to less than 5000 active now. There are several on-going programs at NWA to reduce surplus manning. They are offering short-term (> one month) leaves, partial month leaves, and early retirements. Doesn't bode well for anyone trying to get hired.

viper548 08-29-2008 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 452411)
Whats the latest that someone interviewed with NWA and was brought onboard? How many people in the pool (if there is one)?

Thanks

I interviewed Jan 31 and was offered a May 5 class. Mine was the second class canceled.

EMBFlyer 08-29-2008 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 452534)
Considering the tone of your post I can't imagine what the problem is. Keep your chin up, stay current and keep applying - thats all anyone can do - but lose the attitude it won't help.

Scoop

I really don't think I have a bad attitude. I feel that the result of my interview was bad timing. I had the feeling that they didn't intend to hire anyone that showed up to Atlanta that day.

I wish you all the best of luck during the merger. It sounds like both sides have their stuff together.

KC10 FATboy 08-29-2008 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by viper548 (Post 452548)
I interviewed Jan 31 and was offered a May 5 class. Mine was the second class canceled.

Man, that really blows. Maybe you guys will get merged in with everyone once the merger happens.


Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 452560)
I really don't think I have a bad attitude. I feel that the result of my interview was bad timing. I had the feeling that they didn't intend to hire anyone that showed up to Atlanta that day.

I wish you all the best of luck during the merger. It sounds like both sides have their stuff together.

DAL didn't fly you down to ATL, pay for you to stay in a hotel room, and wasted their time interviewing you because they didn't intend on hiring you. I can understand you having a little grudge, but at least be honest with yourself.

EMBFlyer 08-29-2008 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 452566)
DAL didn't fly you down to ATL, pay for you to stay in a hotel room, and wasted their time interviewing you because they didn't intend on hiring you. I can understand you having a little grudge, but at least be honest with yourself.

The timing just sounds fishy. They announce on 3/26 that they are suspending hiring. Of 6 six of us, 2 got hired. Of the 2 interview rooms, no one that went into the same room I did got hired. In talking with all the candidates, we all seemed very sharp. It just seems a little too coincidental. But, it's what helps me sleep at night.

And they didn't pay for me to stay in a hotel room. I covered that on my own dime.

KC10 FATboy 08-29-2008 05:10 PM

What do you mean coincidental or fishy? Lots of people got hired and some people did not. When I interviewed, 2 of 8 made the cut. All 7 of the people that interviewed with me were nice people ... but that doesn't mean they are the material that DAL was looking for. Only the HR people know exactly why you didn't get hired.

At least admit to yourself that perhaps YOU had something to do with not getting hired, not some stupid conspiracy plan you've devised to help make yourself feel better. Good grief.

If you keep thinking like that and do not learn from your situation, you're going to be flying those ERJs a mighty long time.

NGINEWHOISWHAT 08-29-2008 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 452603)
At least admit to yourself that perhaps YOU had something to do with not getting hired, not some stupid conspiracy plan you've devised to help make yourself feel better. Good grief.

It is quite possible he is on to something. I interviewed at a regional eleven years ago. It was a pretty safe bet I was NOT going to get the job when the person giving the interview threw his pencil across the desk at me. No joke. He missed, thank God. In retrospect I should have gathered my things and walked out, but hindsight is BETTER than 20/20.

Maybe EMBflyer was on his A game, and was looked over for whatever reason. We will never know. Good luck, EMBflyer.

Eric Stratton 08-30-2008 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by NGINEWHOISWHAT (Post 452662)
It is quite possible he is on to something. I interviewed at a regional eleven years ago. It was a pretty safe bet I was NOT going to get the job when the person giving the interview threw his pencil across the desk at me. No joke. He missed, thank God. In retrospect I should have gathered my things and walked out, but hindsight is BETTER than 20/20.

Maybe EMBflyer was on his A game, and was looked over for whatever reason. We will never know. Good luck, EMBflyer.

Now that is too funny. I had the same thing happen to me except that I got a job offer and he actually hit me with it. He didn't like my answer and chucked it at me. I wonder if it was the same lunatic.

Thedude 08-30-2008 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by NGINEWHOISWHAT (Post 452662)
I interviewed at a regional eleven years ago. It was a pretty safe bet I was NOT going to get the job when the person giving the interview threw his pencil across the desk at me. .


Sounds like the CoTex interview.

EMBFlyer 08-30-2008 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 452836)
Sounds like the CoTex interview.

I was just going to ask if the guy's name started with a "J" and ended with an "ohn Dresser".

ERJ_Pilot 09-20-2008 06:34 AM

So as someone who is looking at the regionals still, is the flow through/flow back with Mesaba and Compass something to be concerned about? Is it likely that when the merger happens there will be people flowing back into the regionals and those two having to furlough to make up for it?

Lighteningspeed 09-20-2008 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by ERJ_Pilot (Post 465234)
So as someone who is looking at the regionals still, is the flow through/flow back with Mesaba and Compass something to be concerned about? Is it likely that when the merger happens there will be people flowing back into the regionals and those two having to furlough to make up for it?

This topic had been discussed many times in Mesaba and in other threads.
The Union rep said the Flowthru for Mesaba will remain after the merger but nothing is certain it actually happens. For Mesaba, only the same number of people who have flowed up can flow down. Right now only 13 flowed up so only 13 NWA pilots, if they are furloughed, can flow down. The 13 Mesaba pilots who have flowed up, their spots were left vacant and no one replaced them at Mesaba, so no one should be displaced. This is how it is supposed to work in theory. No one knows if NWA will furlough pilots or not. For Compass, refer to their threads for detailed info on their flowthru deal. I believe no one from Compass have flowed up yet because no one there has reached 30 months of employment yet.

whaledriver1 09-21-2008 01:24 AM


Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed (Post 465237)
This topic had been discussed many times in Mesaba and in other threads.
The Union rep said the Flowthru for Mesaba will remain after the merger but nothing is certain it actually happens. For Mesaba, only the same number of people who have flowed up can flow down. Right now only 13 flowed up so only 13 NWA pilots, if they are furloughed, can flow down. The 13 Mesaba pilots who have flowed up, their spots were left vacant and no one replaced them at Mesaba, so no one should be displaced. This is how it is supposed to work in theory. No one knows if NWA will furlough pilots or not. For Compass, refer to their threads for detailed info on their flowthru deal. I believe no one from Compass have flowed up yet because no one there has reached 30 months of employment yet.



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Not too sure the mesaba/compass flow deal will still remain in place after the NWA/DAL merger. Also, The current Jan. APA and the T. Rainey letter states 'No Furloughs' at NWA, numbers based on the current staffing trends and required levels (NWA short 385 pilots) w/ the new DAL work rules. For what it is worth...

Bucking Bar 09-21-2008 06:27 AM

What do you mean? The flow language is in the JPWA that we ratified.

johnso29 09-22-2008 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 465756)
What do you mean? The flow language is in the JPWA that we ratified.


Yup, it was highlighted in the road show. It WILL remain in place.


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