thanks for not kissing the prima donnas asses ca 1900....somebody had to say it

Netjets does have an agreement with Commut Air, I checked with them. I believe Shares(?) has an agreement with airtran and one other. Many companies also have an agreement with the 135 world, which we fly under all the time. (we also have a 121 certificate, but I don't think we are doing any of that right now) In addition, we are working on getting into CASS so we can use crew lines, etc. but that process has just started. Don't expect to be added to too many JS lists as we cannot reciprocate. I was sitting in CVG once an a Comair capt comes out and asks me if I saw the Netjets guy get off? I said no. He says, well he was bad mouting the regionals while getting off and he'll never ride on HIS plane again. I didn't bother to explain as a full fare pax, The Capt didn't really have a choice if he was jsut bad mouthing the regionals (not that my fellow NJ pilot had any business shooting his mouth off in uniform, but that's a co. thing)

Simple solution
 

This what I do when I am going to work ----If I am wearing my uniform I check in and say hello .
If I,m not wearing said uniform I say nothing since I am in all essences a paying pax.:D
Real simple .

If I see a uniformed pilot in the back, and have doubts, I just ask him.

"Hey man, are you jumpseating or positive space? Thanks, I just wanted to make sure our passenger count is correct".

It's not difficult.

The thread that keeps on giving....YGTBSM!

DD

At the risk of seeming to just be adding crap to the pile, I'd like to add my comments about this thread. Having flown for Pan Am a long time ago, and more recently with FedEx, and having done my fair share of both ticket riding as well as jumpseating, here's my perspective: I always liked it when another pilot was on board, that he (or she) stop by the flight deck to say "hi." It was a way for us (the operating crew) to know that there was another resource, if needed, sitting in the back. When I was traveling, I always thought it important that I make my presence known to the crew, and so, regardless of my travel status, I'd make a point of either asking the lead flight attendant if I could say "hi" to the crew, or if that didn't seem prudent, I'd ask them to please inform the captain that I was on board, and sitting in such and such a seat. This regardless of whether I was riding in or out of uniform. A good number of times, one of the operating crew would stop back to say hello and thank me for making my presence known. I feel it's a good practice, and especially after 9/11, know that the guys up front would feel good about knowing they have someone on their side, sitting in the back. Besides, it's always nice to say hello and "thanks" to the guys flying you around the country.

I second Jetjok's post.

When I travel on a fully paid ticket by my company you will NEVER see me in uniform. I like to be low-profile. Some guys like to flash those uniforms and all the crap hanging on the lanyard at airports even when they're not working..Why is that?

I don't like to flash it, however...

I want to keep my toothpaste at TSA.

I want to take my rollaboard, laptop, and flight bag with me (one carry-on too many).

I don't want to take off my shoes.

I don't want my uniform wrinkled when I get to my domicile.

I don't want to get to my domicile and then realize I forgot my tie..or worse yet, my slacks.

Going home is another story...if I desire a refreshment, then the gear comes off. Otherwise it usually stays on so I don't lose pieces of it.

If you're jumpseating, I was referring to guys who travel on confirmed tickets like those at UPS and FDX. (our companies do not require us in uniforms).

Also, at which airport do pilots in uniforms not have to remove shoes? I haven't had such luck. I think I've been scrutinized more because I WAS IN UNIFORM! Our friends at the TSA somehow have been trained that the biggest threats to terrorism are the airline's own pilots.

I have never removed my shoes. Unless you have shanks in them I wouldnt take them off.

I agree with Jetjock. Personally, I always try to say hi without blocking the isle whether jumpseating (obviously) or on a ticket. Not a Netjet guy (UPS) but when I used to fly pax I liked to know if there were other crew members in the back. We looked at them as our unarmed back-up FAMs...

Get shoes without metal shanks and you won't have to, haven't had to take off my shoes at an airport for years now (while in uniform). I remember STL used to give pilot hard time about shoes but they finally caved in. Can't think of any other airport where you still have to take your shoes off while in uniform. What airport are you having problems with?

My shoes don't make any sound when going through. But the places I normally commute from all make me take them off. Maybe I'll be defiant next time. :eek:

Do they make you take them off when you're in uniform? If so ask politely to speak to a supervisor because they're breaking their own rules for uniformed crew members (for example uniformed crew members may bring liquids, etc).

When not in uniform I have to take my shoes off too...

Thanks for the tip, will definitely try next time..between taking out the laptop, jacket, shoes.I'm just tired of it all! I can see why most guys just prefer to ride on company..Only problem with that is the cabin is usually sub-freezing. :eek:

Haven't ever removed shoes at any station....

and to up that a bit.... been to more than a few airports where a company emblem polo shirt, dockers and your crew ID was enough to jump the line, not take off shoes, and zip right through... with all your bathroom gear still packed away. Apparently there is NO national standard from DHS/TSA on what is, is not, required. Each FSD at each airport basically is the king of his own little fiefdom.

I know it sucks having to deal with TSA, but how easy would it be for someone to buy a pilots uniform and make up an airline ID and get through security? A company I worked for changed names and created a new ID. TSA had no idea who the company was. I got right on through.

We all know that we aren't the terrorists. Most of the passengers aren't the problem either, but they are looking for those select few out there that are.

No don't stop now...

Keep this thread going...

Do NOT let it die...


:D:rolleyes::eek:

Okay so what is the etiquette for non-revs in uniform? I check in about half the time, but if it's a full flight with other non revs and jumpseaters I just take my seat in the back so the actual jumpseaters can check in. I do feel a little "dirty" whenever I don't check in but I think it's unpractical to have a bunch of non revs all trying to poke their heads in to the cockpit during boarding. No one has ever said anything but I wonder sometimes if people look at me like "I'm running to the back" when I'm just trying to get out of the way. I always thank the crew for the ride on the way out if they happen to be standing in the door otherwise I just go on about my business. Jumpseating of course is different.

If I am non rev on my own company, I observe how busy and crowded it is at the time I get on the aircraft. I usually just go straight to the back. However on a jumpseat pass with another airline I always check in and introduce myself unless specifically asked not to by lead FA.

Dude...its all good...

I cannot even believe someone started this thread.

For the most part, anyone jumpseating will let themselves to be known as a jumpseater....most of us learned that the first day of Pre-K in school.

I'm not sure how it is at your airline but as a jumpseater I've always understood that you must check in with the Captain since its his prerogative to grant the jumpseat even if its in the Captain. While the introducing yourself to the Lead F/A is good etiquette its not required like the Captain is. But perhaps its different at different airlines now.

I agree, if jumpseating I will always introduce myself to the captain no matter what the lead F/A says...

The only people that need to check in are J/S . Anything else is just stroking somebody's ego....