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ewrbasedpilot 10-17-2008 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by C5Guy (Post 480718)
And assigned seating fees, checked luggage fees, upgrade fees, movie fees, meal fees, ect... ect ...ect... Yep, the similarities are incredible! :D

CAL has no assigned seating fees, meal fees, etc (contrary to what SWA ads IMPLY). But hey, it costs us a bit more to fly to Paris....France for CAL, Texas for SWA.....and the similarities continue!!! :p

C5Guy 10-17-2008 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 480731)
CAL has no assigned seating fees, meal fees, etc


Continental Airlines posts $236M third-quarter loss
by The Associated Press
Thursday October 16, 2008, 7:11 AM

Maybe they should :p

Pelican 10-17-2008 08:27 AM

Quote from Yahoo Finance:

"Continental Airlines Facing Challenges
On Thursday, Continental reported revenue of -$236 million or -$2.14 a share. Analysts were expecting revenue of $4.12 billion or -$1.49 a share. Compared with Southwest this carrier is worse shape with $3.9 billion in cash and $5.79 billion in debt. Southwest, on the other hand, has $5.8 billion in cash and $2.66 billion in debt. What the recent earnings say about both carriers is that, while financially sound, they are facing the challenges of high fuel prices and a slowing economy. That said both of these carriers have enough cash and low enough debt to overcome their challenges. Shares of Continental were at $12.74 down 10 cents within the first hour of trading and closed the day up $2.91 at $15.75"

Mistral 10-17-2008 08:39 AM

It's amazing ...having left the US few years back and looking at the industry/economy home..reading various newspaper worldwide ..assessing and looking at the the US ..you guys are in for an awakening ...!! quite sad what the airlines are going through at the moment..although not surprising at all.

ewrbasedpilot 10-17-2008 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by C5Guy (Post 480733)
Continental Airlines posts $236M third-quarter loss
by The Associated Press
Thursday October 16, 2008, 7:11 AM

Maybe they should :p

We're trying to be the SWA of the legacies.....so we'll keep everything for free!!! :D

Eric Stratton 10-17-2008 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 480711)
And assigned seating, checked luggage, upgrades, movies, meals, codeshares, international destinations, B-777's, 756's, MD-80's, etc., ................. Yep, the similarities are incredible! :D

how much does putting Seat 6B on the boarding pass cost you guys?

my friends who fly for business don't even purchase first class tickets because they use miles for the upgrade. There company doesn't even allow it. They have to get it ok'ed. they buy coach tickets just like on southwest.

when did southwest stop taking checked luggage? that's a first time I heard it...

my last flight on CAL no movie and no meal.

codeshares, very thin on this one.

international destinations are just different destinations. can they cost more? sure, but the ticket price should reflect that.

different airplanes doesn't make what you do different.

where does jetblue and airtran fit into your way of thinking? the same or completely different?

Eric Stratton 10-17-2008 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 480731)
CAL has no assigned seating fees, meal fees, etc (contrary to what SWA ads IMPLY). But hey, it costs us a bit more to fly to Paris....France for CAL, Texas for SWA.....and the similarities continue!!! :p

once again it's just a different destination.

when you both fly from cleveland to midway or houston to dallas what are the differences? Besides hobby/intercontinental and the overhead space of a 737 vs. 145.

328dude 10-17-2008 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot (Post 480711)
MD-80's, etc., ................. Yep, the similarities are incredible! :D

Wow, a Mad Dog. I forgot how awesome those are. Thanks

alvrb211 10-17-2008 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Mistral (Post 480768)
It's amazing ...having left the US few years back and looking at the industry/economy home..reading various newspaper worldwide ..assessing and looking at the the US ..you guys are in for an awakening ...!! quite sad what the airlines are going through at the moment..although not surprising at all.


Given the fact that we have a system of unipolarity with the US being a hegemon, if the US is in for an awakening, so are the rest of the world markets!

AL

Scoop 10-17-2008 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Eric Stratton (Post 480936)
how much does putting Seat 6B on the boarding pass cost you guys?

my friends who fly for business don't even purchase first class tickets because they use miles for the upgrade. There company doesn't even allow it. They have to get it ok'ed. they buy coach tickets just like on southwest.

when did southwest stop taking checked luggage? that's a first time I heard it...

my last flight on CAL no movie and no meal.

codeshares, very thin on this one.

international destinations are just different destinations. can they cost more? sure, but the ticket price should reflect that.

different airplanes doesn't make what you do different.

where does jetblue and airtran fit into your way of thinking? the same or completely different?

Eric,
Whats up with starting your sentences in lower case letters? If you are going to do that, then why bother with the periods and questions marks?

Scoop


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