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742Dash 12-11-2008 09:01 AM

One of the reasons Boeing moved corporate headquarters to Chicago was “…to get the engineers out of the board room”. It looks like that was a bad move. The 787 is in deep trouble, the 747 -8 is way behind schedule and they can not even hang a boom on the 767 without botching it (reference the badly delayed Italian KC-767 program).

With regard to the the 787, it may not just be the physical building of the airplane that is at issue. A lot of engineering work was also farmed out, so certification could be interesting.

Boeing. The GM of the skies.

Ottopilot 12-11-2008 10:53 AM

While Boeing and the 787 are having its problems; all new aircraft do. It's up to a one year delay. That's really not that bad overall (so far). The plane still has a record number of orders for a new type. I think it's 895 firm orders? Once the program is finally running and aircraft are being delivered, you'll see even more orders. Even with the problems, this plane is on its way to being one of the most successful aircraft in history. That could change, but this is really normal for a new type. :rolleyes:

742Dash 12-11-2008 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 516531)
While Boeing and the 787 are having its problems; all new aircraft do. It's up to a one year delay. That's really not that bad overall (so far). The plane still has a record number of orders for a new type. I think it's 895 firm orders? Once the program is finally running and aircraft are being delivered, you'll see even more orders. Even with the problems, this plane is on its way to being one of the most successful aircraft in history. That could change, but this is really normal for a new type. :rolleyes:

The delay is considerably more than a year, this is the fourth delay and on the original schedule the airplane would have been in service this past May. It still has not flown, and faces a very tight flight test schedule.

I hope that the airplane does well in the long run, but right now Boeing management ought to be taking a good hard look in the mirror and thinking about how their MBA tainted minds have treated their production workers and engineers. At the end of the day it is the engineers and factory workers who generate income by putting real airplanes on real ramps.

In this regard Boeing’s problems are just another example of a broader problem in American business management, aspects of which those of us in the airline industry are painfully aware of.


ewrbasedpilot 12-12-2008 05:26 AM

The majority of press releases I've read point blame towards "the machinist union strike" as being the biggest culprit. Nice how management always seems to blame the employees for THEIR failures. What a bunch of crap.............:rolleyes:

FBEDCOM 12-12-2008 07:02 AM

Best thing all round would to bring back inhouse large swathes of outsourced work.

But I doubt that that'll ever happen...


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