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KC10 FATboy 12-18-2008 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by NismoRacer (Post 521269)
MEM is not going anywhere. They are about to start demolishing the old cargo area north of the C concourse to build a new international terminal for all west bound flights ie Narita. The plan is to have all west bound intl' Delta flights leave out of MEM and all east bound itnl' flights leave out of ATL.

Where did you hear this from? This is not what was told to us during my Indoc class.

-Fatty

acl65pilot 12-18-2008 11:36 AM

Um that would be a total pain in the back side . Think about it.

johnso29 12-18-2008 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by NismoRacer (Post 521269)
MEM is not going anywhere. They are about to start demolishing the old cargo area north of the C concourse to build a new international terminal for all west bound flights ie Narita. The plan is to have all west bound intl' Delta flights leave out of MEM and all east bound itnl' flights leave out of ATL.


That makes NO sense.

PILOTGUY 12-18-2008 07:07 PM

CVG is not going to go anywhere. Even E.B. was quoted in the news that CVG was good for Delta. It is dropping Austin, TX. as a destination out of CVG though. Still 91 destinations out of CVG.

Everyone also seem to think that DHL screwed CVG by getting them to give out all kinds of incentives for the new sorting facility next to 36R a few years ago, but DHL pays the rent on that facility every month on time.

LC carriers may be invited in, but the problem with that is that whatever incentives are giving to the new incoming carrier MUST also be given to any airline that was a tenant in 1974 (Delta). It is a requirement of a 1974 charter with any airline that was here at the time.

My next door neighbor is on the CVG airport board, so I get some info from her from time to time.

acl65pilot 12-18-2008 07:11 PM

Yep, we got some sweet deals out of there. CVG makes money unlike DFW did.

reddog25 12-18-2008 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by NismoRacer (Post 521269)
MEM is not going anywhere. They are about to start demolishing the old cargo area north of the C concourse to build a new international terminal for all west bound flights ie Narita. The plan is to have all west bound intl' Delta flights leave out of MEM and all east bound itnl' flights leave out of ATL.

Actually...I believe MEM is to be the divert field for all NRT-ATL flights!:cool:

DALFA 12-19-2008 04:15 AM


CVG is not going to go anywhere. Even E.B. was quoted in the news that CVG was good for Delta. It is dropping Austin, TX. as a destination out of CVG though. Still 91 destinations out of CVG.
Lets look at the real picture here.

Delta mainline departures in March 2008 = 62
Delta mainline departures in March 2009 = 40


On top of Austin, you might want to add Rome. Also, the number of flights operated by a 757 or larger equipment = 4



Your whole 91 destinations thing is pointless for me and my coworkers who are pilots, because as long as its not Delta mainline flights its not us working on them!

Would you also care to answer out of those 91 markets how many of them are mainline?

Razor 12-19-2008 04:28 AM

This is from yesterday's BizJournal:

Fitch cuts CVG debt rating

Fitch Ratings has given a negative outlook to the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, citing an expected 30 percent reduction in the carrier’s capacity in 2009.

The ratings firm downgraded the airport’s $285 million in outstanding revenue bonds to ‘A-’ from ‘A.’ The bonds, secured by revenue at the airport, mature in 2033.

“The rating downgrade reflects the significant capacity reductions experienced to date by the airport’s largest carrier,” Fitch wrote in a press release. “These reductions are coupled with some loss of passenger-related revenue as a result of the decreased traffic moving through the airport. Expected passenger traffic for 2009 could be as low as that experienced in 1992.”

The negative rating comes as Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) begins to execute its merger with Northwest Airlines. Fitch said it will be difficult for the combined carriers to maintain current levels of operations at their four hubs, in Minneapolis, Detroit, Memphis and Cincinnati. Further reductions in capacity will increase financial pressure, essentially making the airport less competitive as costs per passenger rise.

Delta controls the lion’s share of traffic at the airport – an estimated 85 percent, though Fitch put it at 92 percent of total volume in 2007. “The potential loss of the Delta Air Lines’ connecting hub poses serious financial implications to the (airport) authority,” Fitch stated.

Atlanta-based Delta in early December said it would reduce its 2009 capacity by up to 8 percent.

Fitch cuts CVG debt rating - Business Courier of Cincinnati:

DALFA 12-19-2008 03:31 PM

Thank you for that article!

navigatro 12-19-2008 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by PILOTGUY (Post 521742)

My next door neighbor is on the CVG airport board, so I get some info from her from time to time.



....but is she hot???


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