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Old 12-21-2008, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bernoulli Fan View Post
Yahoo's latest says the plane veered off 2000' from the END of the runway. I'm not sure what the V speeds are for a 737, and I'm not saying Mike Boyd has anything worthwhile to say -- just wanted to correct that part.

Passengers escape burning jet in Denver; 38 hurt - Yahoo! News
They have been saying it was at the Whiskey Charlie intersection on 34R, and just north of fire station 4. These are both about 1/3 of the way down the runway. The runway is 12,000 ft long. I don't know what to make of the Yahoo part. Maybe 2000 ft from the "end" they were taking off from. People outside of aviation don't use the same terminology we usually use when describing events like this. If it was 2000 from the departure end, then it would have been around Whiskey Delta or Whiskey Echo, and not anywhere in the proximity of firestation 4. I'm thoroughly confused. Just have to wait to hear the latest, I guess.

Edit: Here is a much more detailed explanation of events I found:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news.../detail.html#-

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Old 12-21-2008, 07:38 AM
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GEEZ!!!
That makes CHO, SLC,ALB,DEN... in the past two days?
Anywhere else?
(Not just Continental, I am talking all companies)
Delta MD80 went sliding off the taxiway after landing on 23R in IND the other day. We landed right after them. The taxiways were like ice rinks.
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I love how people always say that Pilot Error is the leading cause of all aviation incidents and accidents.
My question is, how many potential accidents have been avoided due to the action of your Flight Crew?

That's where we earn our already underpaid salaries.
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:10 AM
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How many accidents or incidents resulted do to the action of the crew?

Anyway, I became a pilot because I hate working for a living. I don’t think about accidents or incidents until they occur… which is twice a year when I go to simulator for career day.

Good job by the CA crew for getting everyone out without loss of life!
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:47 AM
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Saw aerial views of it on MSNBC this morning. Fuselage cracked aft of the wing, but still intact; left engine torn off and 80 ft left, 20 feet forward of the left wing. Right engine pylon broken; engine in about the right spot, but pointed very skyward.

Left wing root appears to be melted, but it might be snow (telephoto shot with some distortion). Aft emergency escape slides are burned.

Right horizontal stab has a big gash in it with skin pointed upwards.

All gear appear to be sheared-off.

A pax was interviewed--he said the right engine was on fire, he could feel radiant heat through the window, and people were trying to get their stuff out of the overheads....amazing.

Kudos to the crew. It can still be a Merry Christmas for 112 people (and their families).
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:13 AM
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You have to hand it to the PR people for getting the phrase "departed runway" out in circulation. "Crash" sounds WAY more serious and scary!
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer View Post
A pax was interviewed--he said the right engine was on fire, he could feel radiant heat through the window, and people were trying to get their stuff out of the overheads....amazing.

I remember seeing a film about evacuations from aircraft. It showed a plane being evacuated with one lady holding everyone up cause she could not get out the door with both her bags in her hands.
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You have to hand it to the PR people for getting the phrase "departed runway" out in circulation. "Crash" sounds WAY more serious and scary!
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First time posting in a long time.

You have to wonder how many injuries could have been prevented if those pax had actually payed attention to the FA safety briefing.
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Originally Posted by MikeB525 View Post
First time posting in a long time.

You have to wonder how many injuries could have been prevented if those pax had actually payed attention to the FA safety briefing.
A bunch, probably. There's a great book out there called :

The Unthinkable: Who Survives When Disaster Strikes

It's a fascinating look at how people deal with highly stressful situations like fires, 9/11 building evacs, floods, crazies with guns, airplane crashes, etc. Individual and group psychology are addressed, and it's not at all what you'd expect.

One thing is obvious though: for airline crashes, those most likely to survive are those who pay attention during the briefings. Do you always check to make sure you know where the nearest exit is and know how to find it in the dark while crawling through a smoke filled haze? The same applies to hotel fires. This simple knowledge can be the key to survival.
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