Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Major (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/)
-   -   Another brilliant indivdual...... (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/34939-another-brilliant-indivdual.html)

captjns 12-25-2008 03:14 PM

Rarely happens to a non-com who PAYS FOR HIS/HER OWN flight training since they value their personal financial and personal investment in their own flight training.

BringDaFunk 12-25-2008 03:52 PM

I know this guy! WOW!
I can't believe it! He wanted to get out of that contract! I remember seeing him in Brussels, He said he had retired from a charter company, and had just signed on with JET, but didn't think he "would survive the contract!". This was maybe about 6 months ago! WOW!

HSLD 12-25-2008 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by BringDaFunk (Post 525393)
I know this guy! WOW!
I can't believe it! He wanted to get out of that contract! I remember seeing him in Brussels, He said he had retired from a charter company, and had just signed on with JET, but didn't think he "would survive the contract!". This was maybe about 6 months ago! WOW!

That sounds like go big AND go home!

captjns 12-25-2008 04:48 PM

Nah... seems like he thought that the rules did not apply to him. Oh well...

B757200ER 12-25-2008 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 525363)
IF guilty I would agree, but you guys realize that this report comes from the Sun which is about one step above above the National Enquirer in journalistic integrity (only because they do bikini stories instead of Bigfoot).

From another online story, the fact that Heathrow's version of the TSA is looking at crews more thoroughly than normal (just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they're not out to get you):

100% right, Mr. Co-founder. Agreed.

Justdoinmyjob 12-25-2008 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 525376)
Rarely happens to a non-com who PAYS FOR HIS/HER OWN flight training since they value their personal financial and personal investment in their own flight training.

Unfortunately, the three pilots I know personally who have lost their medical/job for alcohol abuse, only one was a former military pilot and the other two were civilian. While the statistical sampling is rather small, I would have to disagree with your statement. Being predisposed to an addicting behaviour has nothing to do with where you learned to fly.

Sniper 12-26-2008 01:59 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 525418)
Being predisposed to an addicting behaviour has nothing to do with where you learned to fly.

I tend to agree. Just b/c you didn't shell out the $ for training doesn't mean you can't put the same value on it. If that were the case, guys who went to these expensive flight academies would be less likely to lose the battle with the bottle than those who trained @ 'ol Bob's FBO. I'd guess it has a good deal more to do with physiological and medical type history rather than flight training history.

No matter what your background, it's clearly something that we, as pilots, need to continue to be on the lookout for, not only with our fellow crew, but ourselves as well. I'd bet that none of us think we have a problem - but, that's exactly what all the guys who end up making this mistake would have likely said if you asked them about it right before they took that first sip that lead to them making the regretful decision to go to work when they were unfit for duty.

Is it me, or do we never really hear about a lone pilot drinking in their room, or even @ the bar, prior to their flight? It always seems to be 'the crew went out together' or 'the pilots were drinking together' or 'one pilot joined the rest of the crew'. It seems that much stranger that others tend to observe the excessive drinking, and its in a social environment, but the excess is allowed by others - usually who's safety will later be jeopardized by their own failure to curtail their crew member's behavior.

Be careful out there.

tomgoodman 12-26-2008 05:54 AM

Help is available
 
For pilots with a drug or alcohol problem: HIMS - A Substance Abuse Treatment Program For Commercial Pilots


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:04 AM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands