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Birds typically fold wings and dive when encountering airplanes,
your theory should do the same... |
Since we all have short memories when it comes to what ******in geese can do to an airplane...AirTran guppy in PHL, I believe 2007:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...iler11/AT1.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...ler11/AT-2.jpg http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...ler11/AT-3.jpg |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539124)
Excellent video, BoilerUP... very convincing.
That's why I'm here. Looking for answers. |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 539127)
Let me help you with that Einstein. Others have posted science based facts as to why your concerns are unfounded. You haven't let that get in the way of your "theory." Since most real pilots have an extremely low tolerance level for those who don't listen to facts, that is a recipe for hostility.
One more time: 1. The wings of the A-320 could easily handle the weight of 100 people on each wing even IF that wing wasn't being supported by the surface tension of the Hudson River's water. Not to mention the buoyancy of a wing that is half filled with air. 2. The warnings of "NO STEP" that you see on some wings is only for the actual area of the "NO STEP" placard. Those are generally localized areas of inter-wing subsystems that could be damaged by a person standing directly over them as the upper wing's skin will deflect a little. It is NOT a warning prohibiting you from stepping on the entire wing. 3. Jet engines suck in thousands of cubic feet of air per second - think enormous vacuum cleaners. Even at idle thrust they can suck a rock right off a taxiway. That's why airport surfaces are patrolled and kept as clean as possible. The fact that most of the birds were sucked into the engines is no surprise. It's quite normal. Most birds that do impact the nose or leading edges don't leave dents, but they do leave a lot of blood and guts. I assume that any blood and guts would have been blasted away by the impact and scrubbing forces of the aircraft impacting the river at 130+ miles per hour. Please return to the Kennedy assassination blogs. Thank you. Carl Carl, With regards to TruthSeuth: "the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead"...I don't think he'll ever get it. |
ThomsonFly 757 one engine bird ingestion, and resolution video.
YouTube - ThomsonFly 757 bird strike & flames captured on video |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539135)
Politics?
You must be kidding me. What is going on here? I haven't voted in over 22 years... I'm anti-political. I HATE politics. I'm trying to show you that the media MIGHT BE distracting us. I showed absolute proof of it, and you call it POLITICS? Give me a break. Let me guess, I'm going to get banned soon, too? Not if I have anything to do with it!! You seem to be the only one speaking truth to power. The Man has been keeping us down long enough, and if your truths are scary, then it's time for brave men like us to step up and bring power to the people! Either that, or you ARE a tool. |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539073)
Yes, I do know how airplanes fly.
I also know that most commercial airliner wings have weight warnings about stepping on the wings... hundreds of pounds maximum if I remember correctly. http://johnsopinion.com/wp-content/u...03/stupid4.jpg |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539054)
I'm not a conspiracy theorist...
- As of this moment, I've yet to see a single video of the ditching... not one, And I've searched everywhere (including YouTube) -- how can this be? Everyone seems to have a cell phone these days... especially in New York. What about CCTV cameras from the Port Authority... someone has to have a video of this, yet we see nothing. Why? - One pilot (who if I remember posted here in this thread) lived near the crash scene admits he didn't see the plane ditch... didn't hear the plane ditch, but then saw the plane floating. Odd don't you think? - The only witnesses of the actual ditching were members of the media (who as you know cover all sorts of things up)... example: "I just thought, 'Why is it so low?' And, splash, it hit the water," said witness Barbara Sambriski, a researcher at The Associated Press. I think you're on to something! Uh, I mean on something!:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539135)
Let me guess, I'm going to get banned soon, too?
Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 539137)
One only needs to watch late night infomercials to gauge the savvy of the majority.
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Another college kid looking to make another stupid "troofer" video like "Loose Change.", and he'd like us to provide the data.
Don't feed the troll. Remember, by definition, half the people in this country are below average intelligence. |
Originally Posted by Jake Wheeler
(Post 539158)
The other half are in bed or watching Jimmy Kimmel.
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Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539135)
Politics?
You must be kidding me. What is going on here? I haven't voted in over 22 years... I'm anti-political. I HATE politics. I'm trying to show you that the media MIGHT BE distracting us. I showed absolute proof of it, and you call it POLITICS? Give me a break. Let me guess, I'm going to get banned soon, too? |
This thread is priceless...
Engine Anti-Ice: ON Air conditioning Panel: Set Tinfoil helmet: ON I need a popcorn emoticon here. |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539054)
I'm not a conspiracy theorist...
... But I'm also not into coincidence theories, either. I'm VERY troubled by yesterday's ditching of Flight 1549. It doesn't make sense to me. Consider these points: - Apparently, a flock of birds knocked out two engines but didn't leave an impact on the nose (as you know much more flimsy than engines). http://usera.ImageCave.com/TruthSleu...-USAir.png.jpg - This picture is heavily Photoshopped... when you zoom in, you see all sorts of cut and paste artwork... even the USAir logo is pasted onto the plane. Why? Also in this picture are dozens and dozens of "survivors"... it's hard to count because the picture is so fuzzy and distant (a common theme... distant and fuzzy pics). How can more than 20 people stand on a wing and not collapse it? - Where are the closeup pictures... if you watch any of the coverage yesterday, all of the camera angles were distant shots... even with the media within hundreds of yards of the scene. Why? - As of this moment, I've yet to see a single video of the ditching... not one, And I've searched everywhere (including YouTube) -- how can this be? Everyone seems to have a cell phone these days... especially in New York. What about CCTV cameras from the Port Authority... someone has to have a video of this, yet we see nothing. Why? - One pilot (who if I remember posted here in this thread) lived near the crash scene admits he didn't see the plane ditch... didn't hear the plane ditch, but then saw the plane floating. Odd don't you think? - The only witnesses of the actual ditching were members of the media (who as you know cover all sorts of things up)... example: "I just thought, 'Why is it so low?' And, splash, it hit the water," said witness Barbara Sambriski, a researcher at The Associated Press. - The media is reporting, "It appears to be the first time that a large commercial jet liner ever has made a successful controlled landing into a body of water." Another coincidence. A "Miracle" is the media mantra about this. Can this plane really survive a ditching without nearly a scratch... really? I could go on and on with minor stuff, but I hope you get my drift. Your thoughts? First of all, YOUR ARE A CONSPIRACY THEORIST. There is no question about that. I bet you believe President Bush was behind the Sept. 11 Attacks to or Hurricane Katrina was a Military Experiment that went wrong. Second of all, you must have some set on you to Monday Night Quarter Back this thing. You should leave these discussions to ACTUAL pilots. |
Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
(Post 539162)
You won't get banned. But your questions indicate that you are not a pilot of any type. There have previously been posts by lawyers and media posing questions and guys here aren't going to be drawn into that. Hence the put downs. You discount the fact that pilots at LGA and numerous eye witnesses saw this plane go down. If it was slow its because they either had no power, or minimal power and were doing everything they could to prolong flight. As far as I'm concerned, the crew were heroes and this was a miracle as I'm amazed a plane with under wing engines didn't come apart on impact.
I am not a lawyer nor a member of the media. I DESPISE both. I have no skin in this game. I don't know the pilots, crew or pax. I'm trying to figure this thing called life. It's not what it seems. The vast majority of the responses here actually make me think there's more to this... I was actually hoping my questions would get debunked. For the exception of the wing point... they haven't. |
Originally Posted by DeadHead
(Post 539171)
First of all, YOUR ARE A CONSPIRACY THEORIST.
I bet you believe President Bush was behind the Sept. 11 Attacks to or Hurricane Katrina was a Military Experiment that went wrong. And I don't think Katrina was a Military Experiment gone wrong. I'd like to stay focused on yesterday's crash, though. |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539180)
I am not a commercial pilot. I own an internet marketing business.
I am not a lawyer nor a member of the media. I DESPISE both. I have no skin in this game. I don't know the pilots, crew or pax. I'm trying to figure this thing called life. It's not what it seems. The vast majority of the responses here actually make me think there's more to this... I was actually hoping my questions would get debunked. For the exception of the wing point... they haven't. You've already violated the letter and the spirit of the terms of service of this board. Hopefully, the moderators will step up and ban you as they should. PERHAPS IF ENOUGH POSTERS COMPLAIN THIS WILL HAPPEN FASTER? (hint, hint) This forum is specifically for WORKING COMMERCIAL PILOTS. Frankly, I think you've already violated the |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539180)
I am not a commercial pilot. I own an internet marketing business.
I am not a lawyer nor a member of the media. I DESPISE both. I have no skin in this game. I don't know the pilots, crew or pax. I'm trying to figure this thing called life. It's not what it seems. The vast majority of the responses here actually make me think there's more to this... I was actually hoping my questions would get debunked. For the exception of the wing point... they haven't. Ok, well your ridiculous theory is shutdown by the pilots. So get out of here. End of discussion. |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539180)
I am not a commercial pilot. I own an internet marketing business.
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539180)
The vast majority of the responses here actually make me think there's more to this...
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remember that those winds can support that entire aircraft weight three to four times. (Read a half a million pounds) These wings are strong. Heck they have that many people on em when they are going mtc work.
It is also quite possible to have birds not hit the nose and go in to the engines. It appears that there were bird strikes above the flight deck windows. There is not conspiracy with it! |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539180)
The vast majority of the responses here actually make me think there's more to this... I was actually hoping my questions would get debunked. For the exception of the wing point... they haven't. |
We all know the world is full of nuts. Go be a nut somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by Jake Wheeler
(Post 539187)
Well, sir, it's pretty obvious you came here with that opinion and now you are refusing to budge from it. If I asked you about something in the internet marketing business and you gave me your best answer, would you think I'm nuts if I refused to believe your honesty? What would you think if I started accusing you of hiding the truth from me?
I'm looking for your help to set me straight. I have budged... I'm not focused on the wings anymore -- thanks for that... but everything else doesn't make sense. And I just found this picture: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/US...kelis.irpt.jpg Now it's showing emergency shoots on both sides... that's NOT what was shown on the live media videos. What in the world is going on here? |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539200)
Of course I came here with an opinion. This is called a discussion board, right?
I'm looking for your help to set me straight. I have budged... I'm not focused on the wings anymore -- thanks for that... but everything else doesn't make sense. And I just found this picture: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/US...kelis.irpt.jpg Now it's showing emergency shoots on both sides... that's NOT what was shown on the live media videos. What in the world is going on here? |
This Guy Needs To Be Banned!
This Is Getting Ridiculous! |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539182)
Sorry. I don't think Bush was involved in 9/11 at all.
And I don't think Katrina was a Military Experiment gone wrong. I'd like to stay focused on yesterday's crash, though. I'm sorry, but you don't deserve the right to discuss yesterday's crash because you have clearly insulted a very difficult and trying time for the passengers and flight crew of flight 1549. Just because we are gifted with the "Freedom of Speech" in this country, that doesn't alleviate it us from our Responsibility to use it honorably. |
Thats because the slides seperate from the aircraft to become life rafts. Two of the slides were floating away from the plane when the people were picked up by a boat. Thats why the slides were missing. Seriously, give it up.
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I can't believe it, but I am going to reply to this joker....
Where are the ferries in your last shot? This picture was taken probably right after they ditched. (looks like from another plane) There are two emergency CHUTES (spelling)these are detachable, and probably were detached as the ferries came, so they can get these pax (that's passengers). As far as the nose, that has alredy been pointed out that SOMETIMES the birds will fly down, thus missing the nose, yet getting ingested into the engines (also pilots probably pulled up to try and avoid them. BTW, what happened to the plane wreckage that flew into the Pentagon? What REALLY happened to TWA off Long Island? Also, I love your screen name. Kinda tells us about your personality traits. |
Originally Posted by UnlimitedAkro
(Post 539209)
Thats because the slides seperate from the aircraft to become life rafts. Two of the slides were floating away from the plane when the people were picked up by a boat. Thats why the slides were missing. Seriously, give it up.
I leave right now if you show me a single authentic picture or video showing the emergency chutes being used as rafts. I've been looking at this very closely and I've not seen a single instance. Not one. I'm serious. I'll leave if you can show it to me. Because I can't find it. |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
What in the world is going on here?
Different pictures, taken at different times, from different perspectives, show different things. There's no conspiracy here... |
Call these guys, they'll be happy to answer any structural and testing questions.
Airbus Headquarters in Toulouse 1, Rond Point Maurice Bellonte 31707 Blagnac Cedex France Phone: +33 5 61 93 33 33 Then MIT 77 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 617.253.1000 (Physics and Stuff) Or JPL 4800 Oak Grove Drive Pasadena, CA 91109 818-354-4321 (For Shtsi and giggles) And also European Organization for Nuclear Research CERN CH-1211 Genève 23 Switzerland Telephone Switchboard: +41 22 76 761 11 (To find out if we come from monkeys or not) THEN, come back and tell us. |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539214)
I'll make you all a deal.
I leave right now if you show me a single authentic picture or video showing the emergency chutes being used as rafts. |
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Wait a second, doesn't USAir have a few early A320's made of balsa wood and toothpicks? You know, before the French discovered metal? Those would not support all those people standing on the wing.
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HE FIGURED US OUT!!! Okay Ile spill the Truth!!! Us pilots on this forum where involved in a huge cover-up with Dick Cheney! We even managed to fool (the ones not paid off) the MEDIA!!! BUT WE DID NOT FOOL YOU!!! So check this out!! We Took a mock up of the A320 and a group of us (had to play rock paper scissors to see who would be the pilot) from this forum had it pulled out in to the middle of the river and submerged it just below the surface….THEN!!! We snuck out in the next day in little boats and pulled the mock up a320 to the surface and all got in the wings and posed for pictures and had the paid off members of the media watching!!! That’s what happened!!! HE got us!!
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Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539214)
I'll make you all a deal.
I leave right now if you show me a single authentic picture or video showing the emergency chutes being used as rafts. I've been looking at this very closely and I've not seen a single instance. Not one. I'm serious. I'll leave if you can show it to me. Because I can't find it. Breaking News | Latest News | Current News - FOXNews.com http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/ph...249_M_1450.jpg http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/ph...9_M_rescue.jpg See you around! |
Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539214)
I'll make you all a deal.
I leave right now if you show me a single authentic picture or video showing the emergency chutes being used as rafts. I've been looking at this very closely and I've not seen a single instance. Not one. I'm serious. I'll leave if you can show it to me. Because I can't find it. You are being disrespectful to all the heros from yesterday. I dont need to waste my time finding a stupid photo to disprove your ridiculous theory, it does not change the fact that there are nuts out there with a computer at their finger tips. I am not going to spend anymore of my time fueling your ideas because you seem to enjoy getting a rise out of the pilots. That alone makes you pretty sick. |
Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
(Post 539231)
Here you go
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Originally Posted by TruthSleuth
(Post 539214)
I'll make you all a deal.
I leave right now if you show me a single authentic picture or video showing the emergency chutes being used as rafts. I've been looking at this very closely and I've not seen a single instance. Not one. I'm serious. I'll leave if you can show it to me. Because I can't find it. |
Originally Posted by Romulus
(Post 539237)
Bet you a donut TruthSleuth doesn't keep his word.
http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/ph...09_plane06.jpg |
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