All of 'em. :)






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If only we could use more than 3 SMILEYS!!!!!!! :)




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Yep, that's the problem. There's always somebody out there willing to do it for less.

Pilot shortage? Hell no. QUALIFIED pilot shortage? You bet.

You shade the TRUTH about the military life pal....did you mention:

Additional duties i.e. being a secretary in some form or fashion pushing meaningless paperwork around (in a paperless air force) so that you can punch that next square for your next promotion that you probably had to stab 3-4 guys in the back to get

Being deployed for at least half the life of any children you may wish to have or worse wished you could have had except for the fact that your wife left you while you were off fighting a second war for the good of mankind

The three year mandatory desk job (staff tour) necessary to make it past the rank of major....wow were in the big bucks now....

The lovely accomodations you may expect to stay in i.e. a tent with twelve other guys for six months where you can obtain quality crew rest because we know in the military safety is paramount...

The list could go on and on and on.........you can keep it

been there done that...got the **** out!:eek:

No, I didn't. 'Paperwork' comes with advancement. If someone thinks a military flying career is only going to be spent slipping the surly bonds, that person needs to grow up.

If you 'stabbed anybody in the back to get promoted', shame on you.

The current level of deployments hopefully will end soon. It hasn't always been this way.

What has always been this way for many in the airline business is exactly what you talking about...50% of the time away from home on trips...and until one gets based where one lives, it will always be that way. If that person is junior, forget about holidays such as Xmas...

A staff job still includes flight pay AFAIK.

What meets your expectations...a Holiday Inn built for every deployment?

Sounds like you did everyone a favor.

It sounds like you have the "advancement" side of the coin figured out, once again proving my point of how far the military has slipped...used to be we focused on aviation...and perfecting THOSE skills. I "grew up" and realized this was no longer the case. I left the back stabbing up to those who stayed in, they were good at it.


What friggin planet have you been living on the last 15 years?? There have been deployments to the sandbox or bosnia nonstop...I guess you were lucky enough to have that "staff tour" out of harms way and home with your family every night. Stay tuned for that "Hopefull" ending!!!
Being gone 50% of the year in one shot or taking a couple of short trips throughout the month....let's see, boy that's a hard choice!


At best your looking at what, 650 extra a month?? I get that with one extended day of overtime...sounds like your comparing apples to watermelons.

The holiday Inn would be substandard with my company....hmmm but it would be much nicer in a tent with 12 other dudes trying to get crew rest.
And I get an MRE to eat on top of that!!

Your right, I did. When you leave shut off the lights...my tax dollars are stretched already.:D

To the other military guys who might read this, sorry for the dispute, just trying to give the unshaded story of what you might expect in today's military. Some people need reminding.....

I never was good at that paperwork stuff....

What did you fly in the service...and for how long? I was a S prefix...and kept that all the way to retirement. How about you?

Not compared to DL anymore[/QUOTE]
Who says Delta is old - all the old guys retired. We have over 6000 on the seniority list and only about 700 over 50 - everyone else retired early and took their lump sum which accelerated the termination of the pension plan due to liquidity issues. Delta is recalling 200 in 2007 (20-30/month starting in February) and there are only 158 furloughed pilots that haven't been offered recall yet. Tell me there aren't a bunch of guys that won't jump at the chance to work at Delta over a regional (or from a regional). Our contract is up in 2009 (we also have snap back provisions based on profitability). Not happy with what I lost but still better than some.

Looks like Mama was right on target.