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av8tordude 03-04-2009 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by 328dude (Post 571613)
The difference (usually) between a MAC and PC is when a PC crashes, the whole thing crashes. If a program in MAC crashes, it does not crash the whole computer and must force it to quit a program giving you problems.

The above statement would be true if you are running windows software prior to XP. If a programs crashes (i.e. stops running), the software requires some intervention (i.e. Ctrl-Alt-Del). Doing so does NOT mean, pushing the power button! It means can you need to stop and restart that particular program.

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Pushing the power button on a MAC which some believe is the same as Control-Alt-Delete, is very very bad for a MAC. [/qoute]

Pushing the power button is bad for any computer! You could potentially lose critical components of some software. also, such a drastic measure scatters your software all over your harddrive. (I'm sure everyone has heard of defragment of your harddrive.)

Fishfreighter 03-04-2009 11:29 AM

All I did was put Office for Mac on mine. Works great, lasts long time.

deltabound 03-05-2009 05:09 AM

This Simpson's clip pretty much sums up the average Mac user.

Hulu - The Simpsons: Steve Mobs

This one ain't bad either.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/46718/the-...nk-differently

I'm amazed about the amount of PC vs. Mac talk out there (and how nasty it gets). I mean, really: why not argue about who has the better television set or clock radio?

Most of it probably stems from Mac users need to justify the enormous premium cost of their stuff, which pretty much (but not entirely) does the same stuff as a run of the mill cheap PC.

RockyBoy 03-05-2009 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 572406)
Most of it probably stems from Mac users need to justify the enormous premium cost of their stuff, which pretty much (but not entirely) does the same stuff as a run of the mill cheap PC.

You can get a new iMac 24" with a 3.06Ghz processor, 4GB memory, 1TB hard drive, and the new Nvidia graphics driver with 512MB memory all for $2200. You can't find a PC with a 24" integrated monitor for that price. Not sure how the laptop prices stack up, but if your buying a desktop, the iMac really isn't more than a comparable PC.

PilotFrog 03-05-2009 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 572406)
This Simpson's clip pretty much sums up the average Mac user.

Hulu - The Simpsons: Steve Mobs

This one ain't bad either.

Hulu - The Simpsons: Think Differently

I'm amazed about the amount of PC vs. Mac talk out there (and how nasty it gets). I mean, really: why not argue about who has the better television set or clock radio?

Most of it probably stems from Mac users need to justify the enormous premium cost of their stuff, which pretty much (but not entirely) does the same stuff as a run of the mill cheap PC.

That was perfect! In the end it isn't the software or hardware, it is the user.

RockyBoy 03-05-2009 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 572491)
That was perfect! In the end it isn't the software or hardware, it is the user.

Yeah, but the MAC is much easier for the user to use and much harder for the user to screw it up. You almost need a microsoft certification to not screw up a PC and if it does get screwed up, you better be good at re-installing the entire system.

Cruise 03-05-2009 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 571647)
Right, it at least does not crash the whole thing. I just force quit whatever it is (an assortment of programs including Safari). I don't load this thing up with much to do. Just usually one or two windows of internet browsers, Adium, perhaps iTunes or NeoOffice or TextEdit or something. That's it. No graphic intensive stuff at all. My seven year old Dell desktop hasn't frozen in months. But, it is a desktop.



I never push the power button other than starting the computer up from when it was completely shut down. I just use Command+Option+Esc to force quit when even the mouse cannot click the apple button.

Not only do I baby this thing but it is only a few months old anyway.

Screen's defective, spacebar's also not in good shape. I'm taking it to the Apple store shortly.

Sounds like you got a lemon. I liked my first Powerbook so much, when it was time to move on......I got a second one. Been using Mac's for over 5 years now. I will never go back to Windows w/out a fight.

deltabound 03-05-2009 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 572480)
You can get a new iMac 24" with a 3.06Ghz processor, 4GB memory, 1TB hard drive, and the new Nvidia graphics driver with 512MB memory all for $2200. You can't find a PC with a 24" integrated monitor for that price. Not sure how the laptop prices stack up, but if your buying a desktop, the iMac really isn't more than a comparable PC.

Comparable to what? Most Americans can get a PC desktop for $500-$700 bucks that will do everything they will ever need.

Can a Mac do more? Absolutely. Can it do it better? No question. Do most people really need (or want) all the extra stuff, so much so that they'll pay a huge premium? Clearly, the market says "no".

Expect more of this as the economy continues to tank. Macs are a luxury item.

Personal choice and all that. American users are definitely coming to the conclusion that "less is more", as the huge surge in netbook sales continues. These things do pretty much everything most people care about (surfing and e-mailing).

forumname 03-05-2009 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 572677)
y continues to tank. Macs are a luxury item.
Personal choice and all that. American users are definitely coming to the conclusion that "less is more", as the huge surge in netbook sales continues. These things do pretty much everything most people care about (surfing and e-mailing).

True, and this could start and ENTIRELY new debate. Get one with a LINUX OS. Or wipe that "Windows lite" thing or whatever it's called off there and install Linux. Or at the very least, partition the drive and do a dual install. You can try to install MAC OS and it will work for just about everything except for some hardware issues. Primarily the wireless. I've heard it can be fixed but haven't bothered as I'm happy with the Linux.

I don't have anywhere near the experience with the Linux platform (yet) as I do with the MAC OS. The stock install of Xandros that some come with is OK, Linpus is better. But ubuntu has to be slickest one I've seen between the three.

RockyBoy 03-05-2009 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 572677)
Comparable to what? Most Americans can get a PC desktop for $500-$700 bucks that will do everything they will ever need.

Just comparing apples to apples here. I don't disagree that most people don't need a $2000 computer, but some of us think we do. :) You can get a bottom line iMac or miniMac for well under $1000 if you want. If you want to do something other than e-mail and facebook, then you probably need something a little better than what $500 will buy you. Price a Dell with an integrated 24" monitor, 640G hard drive, 4G of RAM, and a 3Ghz processor. It's gonna cost you at least $2500. You can get the same stuff in an iMac for $1800. Again, maybe the laptops are pricey, but you can get the same stuff in an iMac for less than a comparable PC.

OK, just went onto the Dell site and if I were to buy another Dell with the same stuff I got with an iMac, it would have cost me about $150 more for the Dell.


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