B6 and Apple
 

Just made the jump to Apple. Thanks. Trying to update my app. profile and I'm getting a "popup font size error." Or something like that. Any suggestions.

Apple works flawlessly if you only need to interact with graphic artists and college students. You need to maintain a windows capability to interface with the real world, at least for the time being.

Try downloading Firefox browser and filling out the app. using that.

Seems to work with some sites that aren't Safari friendly.

Hope it helps.

Says someone who is not a mac-user. :rolleyes: Firefox works fine where Safari doesn't like to play. The only time I've had any problems on a mac is dealing with NC Software (makers of Logbook Pro). For this (or any other company that has "issues") VMWare Fusion is useful. Otherwise if you have Leopard, BootCamp comes in handy. Haven't even had problems getting Pages or Numbers to tango with Microsoft Word or Excel. :eek:

Once you go mac, you won't want to go back. Here's to 2+ years and never have I had my mac freeze or crash on me. :D Can't say the same for ANY Dell, HP, Compaq, Toshiba, Sony, etc that I've used or had.

Whatever.........

The majority of people that are Apple users are fed up with windows and switched over.

The majority of people that make IGNORANT statements about Apples really don't have the first clue as to what they are talking about. Most of their exposure to a MAC has been to pop into the apple store.

But nice try.

Did the switch about 3 weeks ago. Holy crap, this thing is awesome. Why I ever put up with Windows and all the Anti-Spyware, Virus and other crap they are prone too, is beyond me.

OBTW, 13.3 Aluminum Macbook user.

I'll never go back. I got a Mini-mac, a MacBook, and Ipod and an Iphone.

I've considered BootCamp, but I don't want to have to buy Windows, again, to get it to work.

This one flaw is Quicken. It doesn't really work as well with Apple.

Firefox worked, thanks.

Just bought a 24" iMac for the wife to replace the crappy Dell we've had for a few years. So far the thing has been awesome and hopefully I won't have to wipe the hard drive on a semi-annual basis like I did with that piece of crap Dell. The best thing about it is that it didn't come with half the hard drive full of credit card and internet offers pre-installed. I've got a 13.3" Dell laptop that will be replaced by a Macbook when I get the cash.

Doubt it, I've been using Macs for years and never had to do that.

I switched to Apple a few months ago.

It does not live up to the hype at all.

It freezes just like Windows programs did.

The windows interface was much better in my opinion. I hate how things open in the Mac and the way you view folders is horrible because they do not save the view format you had it in.

As Rickair said, many things are no compatible. Windows can run on it but you have to get a store copy, not a copy that came with a computer. XP is no longer available for that.

If it had not come with an iTouch and printer for free it would have not been worth the extra money at all.

If you get the job at JB you wont be buying anymore apple products. You'll be waiting outside walmart at 3AM waiting for the 'black friday' $199 laptop on sale.

You need to keep windows if you like your computer to crash 2 or 3 times a day.

I'm going to be blunt about PC and MAC!

The only difference between PC and MAC is the software...PERIOD! If you have a PC and you are having multiple problems, you need to take a look at the source of the problem: The USER! MAC users rave about how well a Mac computer runs, but never consider what software is on a MAC vs PC. First and foremost, the anti-virus software found of most if not all PC slows the performance considerably. It is a resource hog. Get rid of it! That will improve your PC performance by 50%. Closing any background software that you don't use freguently will help as well. I've own a DELL Laptop since 2005. Unistall all that unnecessary software and anti-virus junk and never had a problem! Own a Desktop since 2000 and no problem. The problem people have with computers can be contributed directly to the Users themselves and what their installing on their computer!

My recommendation...download:

Cleanup - www.stevengould.org - Download and Installation

keeps your computer clean of unnecessary junk.

Spybot - The home of Spybot-S&D!
protects against spyware & malware

I can name more, but those are the best and most importantly...FREE! And it won't slow computer performance. Most importantly, don't download anything you don't know what it is and most importantly don't plan to use.

Yeah, for about a month. Tried that for a awhile because I know that stuff slows things down, but after a month the computer took about three times as long to boot up, crashed all the time, and froze up about a dozen times per day. If you have anti-virus programs you can prolong that for about six months. Tried the free programs to keep it "clean" and still ended up with a slow crappy computer. The only fix was to wipe the hard drive and start all over which takes about a full day to re-install the 5 million Windows updates and service packs.

It really is a Windows problem and Windows is absolute garbage and will always be absolute garbage. There is no possible way that a MAC could even come close to the headache you get when running Windows on a PC, even if you do have some compatability problems and don't like the interface as much.

Our VOD systems are run by.....WINDOWS!
Our VOD systems are crashing.....ALWAYS!
Our EFB's are running..............WINDOWS!
Our EFB's run like.............................................. ......

Those who can, do.
Those who can't, buy PCs with Windows.
Those who know better but just can't quite fall in love with a MAC, buy PC's with Linux.

Based on information from three different people I've talked to in the past month or two, I think this is what I am going to do next time (this MacBook just froze an hour ago...had to do the CTRL+ALT+DEL equivalent again).

What operating version are you running? What are you doing when it crashes?
The difference (usually) between a MAC and PC is when a PC crashes, the whole thing crashes. If a program in MAC crashes, it does not crash the whole computer and must force it to quit a program giving you problems.

Pushing the power button on a MAC which some believe is the same as Control-Alt-Delete, is very very bad for a MAC. :eek: That's what the Apple Techs atleast told me. While it might look like it's crashed, it probably didn't. MAC OS X for Dummies was a great guide for me, hence the dummy part.

Right, it at least does not crash the whole thing. I just force quit whatever it is (an assortment of programs including Safari). I don't load this thing up with much to do. Just usually one or two windows of internet browsers, Adium, perhaps iTunes or NeoOffice or TextEdit or something. That's it. No graphic intensive stuff at all. My seven year old Dell desktop hasn't frozen in months. But, it is a desktop.

I never push the power button other than starting the computer up from when it was completely shut down. I just use Command+Option+Esc to force quit when even the mouse cannot click the apple button.

Not only do I baby this thing but it is only a few months old anyway.

Screen's defective, spacebar's also not in good shape. I'm taking it to the Apple store shortly.

The above statement would be true if you are running windows software prior to XP. If a programs crashes (i.e. stops running), the software requires some intervention (i.e. Ctrl-Alt-Del). Doing so does NOT mean, pushing the power button! It means can you need to stop and restart that particular program.

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Pushing the power button on a MAC which some believe is the same as Control-Alt-Delete, is very very bad for a MAC. [/qoute]

Pushing the power button is bad for any computer! You could potentially lose critical components of some software. also, such a drastic measure scatters your software all over your harddrive. (I'm sure everyone has heard of defragment of your harddrive.)

All I did was put Office for Mac on mine. Works great, lasts long time.

This Simpson's clip pretty much sums up the average Mac user.

Hulu - The Simpsons: Steve Mobs

This one ain't bad either.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/46718/the-...nk-differently

I'm amazed about the amount of PC vs. Mac talk out there (and how nasty it gets). I mean, really: why not argue about who has the better television set or clock radio?

Most of it probably stems from Mac users need to justify the enormous premium cost of their stuff, which pretty much (but not entirely) does the same stuff as a run of the mill cheap PC.

You can get a new iMac 24" with a 3.06Ghz processor, 4GB memory, 1TB hard drive, and the new Nvidia graphics driver with 512MB memory all for $2200. You can't find a PC with a 24" integrated monitor for that price. Not sure how the laptop prices stack up, but if your buying a desktop, the iMac really isn't more than a comparable PC.

That was perfect! In the end it isn't the software or hardware, it is the user.

Yeah, but the MAC is much easier for the user to use and much harder for the user to screw it up. You almost need a microsoft certification to not screw up a PC and if it does get screwed up, you better be good at re-installing the entire system.

Sounds like you got a lemon. I liked my first Powerbook so much, when it was time to move on......I got a second one. Been using Mac's for over 5 years now. I will never go back to Windows w/out a fight.

Comparable to what? Most Americans can get a PC desktop for $500-$700 bucks that will do everything they will ever need.

Can a Mac do more? Absolutely. Can it do it better? No question. Do most people really need (or want) all the extra stuff, so much so that they'll pay a huge premium? Clearly, the market says "no".

Expect more of this as the economy continues to tank. Macs are a luxury item.

Personal choice and all that. American users are definitely coming to the conclusion that "less is more", as the huge surge in netbook sales continues. These things do pretty much everything most people care about (surfing and e-mailing).

True, and this could start and ENTIRELY new debate. Get one with a LINUX OS. Or wipe that "Windows lite" thing or whatever it's called off there and install Linux. Or at the very least, partition the drive and do a dual install. You can try to install MAC OS and it will work for just about everything except for some hardware issues. Primarily the wireless. I've heard it can be fixed but haven't bothered as I'm happy with the Linux.

I don't have anywhere near the experience with the Linux platform (yet) as I do with the MAC OS. The stock install of Xandros that some come with is OK, Linpus is better. But ubuntu has to be slickest one I've seen between the three.

Just comparing apples to apples here. I don't disagree that most people don't need a $2000 computer, but some of us think we do. :) You can get a bottom line iMac or miniMac for well under $1000 if you want. If you want to do something other than e-mail and facebook, then you probably need something a little better than what $500 will buy you. Price a Dell with an integrated 24" monitor, 640G hard drive, 4G of RAM, and a 3Ghz processor. It's gonna cost you at least $2500. You can get the same stuff in an iMac for $1800. Again, maybe the laptops are pricey, but you can get the same stuff in an iMac for less than a comparable PC.

OK, just went onto the Dell site and if I were to buy another Dell with the same stuff I got with an iMac, it would have cost me about $150 more for the Dell.

True, you can also go to Apple refurbished and save yourself some money, and they offer warranty protection on the product. Or, just go to any of the various online refurbished MAC sellers, they ALSO offer warranty protection.

I've gone this route, saved lots of money on capable machines, and NEVER had a problem.

Nice ignorant statement. I have this great episode from South Park, called "Smug Alert" that pretty much sums up your attitude.

http://www.hybridcars.com/files/imag...k-smug-313.gif

Apologies, relax.

Too bad you never made it out to the west coast. I'm pretty sure I would have enjoyed flying with you.

Very valid points. However, I agree that some of the Apple items are overpriced, the money saved for keeping a PC clean makes up the difference in my opinion.

Let me stop you right there before you keep making smug statements.. :D

I meant that :cool:

Well, I'll end with this:

Even a anti/ambivalent-Mac person such as myself will say that even though most Mac products are overpriced for the average user (non-debatable, really), the iPod is clearly a winner.

Not so much for the hardware (also overpriced -- plenty of other MUCH cheaper, capable MP3 players out there), but for the iTunes interface that makes downloading so simple.

How about some non-DRM music protection, eh? Oh wait, then you could just download and not use an overpriced iPod player. Brilliant!

Hehehe....so you really do like Apple products. :) If you would use a MAC for awhile you would also agree it is superior to a PC just like an iPod is superior to crappy MP3 players. I bought a highly rated MP3 player for my daughter instead of an iPod to save $70. I HATE the thing. Software to load, drivers to re-install, a different plug-in to install from every site you want to download stuff, it just sucks. Plug an iPod in and it works. Same goes for the MAC. Plug your camera, video recorder, external drive, etc. in and they work. No drivers, no crappy software programs, nothing.

Oddly enough, I've never had a PC crash, or any problems with uploading pictures, or watching DVD's, etc.

Clearly, I'm not the only one -- hence the huge numbers of PC's out there.

What I find amusing is that Mac users are so utterly insufferable about a utilitarian and ubiquitous overpriced piece of hardware. It's like a religion or something. Get "born again" with the Mac, and now ya got's to convert everyone. Ah well. :)

True, but as with ANYTHING else in life, people will go with an average, mediocre, or flat out piece of garbage if it's going to save them some money. They will also gladly buy/consume something that has been marketed to be easy but in the end can be nothing but a huge inconvenience. Besides, the story of why Apple is the position they are in, as well as why PC/Windows has such a huge market share is a long and convoluted one at best.

Like I said, I've gone with refurbed products, NEVER had a problem, and was always able to get a much better equipped machine than if I went the PC route for the same amount of money. And the the refurbed MAC's I've bought were usually at least a year old and still ahead of the current PC offerings.

Different strokes for differenet folks.