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Old 03-11-2009 | 12:53 PM
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I just heard that these 300 or so guys are going to bail becuase they are going to lose their large A-fund lump sum which will be converted into annuity payments in the next 6 months or so? Just rumor!
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Old 03-11-2009 | 05:37 PM
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There is rumor over here (at UAL) that the merger thing is still being considered. I would much rather see both airlines operate as a separate entity, but that is beside the point.

Any rumors on your side of the fence at CAL? I am worried on the outcome of either scenario, as I am sitting 40 numbers from the bottom of UAL, with more furloughs expected in September (after the April and May furloughs) taking us all the way down to 6440 pilots (and I am 6928 as a March 2000 hire).

Thought I'd ask the other guys if they are hearing anything...

Thanks!
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Old 03-11-2009 | 07:43 PM
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EWR LEC 170 Wednesday BlastMail



CAL COUNCIL 170 LEC UPDATE

Today is Wednesday, March 11, and there are 7 items for discussion:


·Item 1: COLA 11


“Our best days are ahead of us,”
said Larry Kellner last Friday at the EWR CEO Exchange. Meanwhile, 1,500 miles away in Houston, Mr. Kellner’s own Flight Operations management team apparently did not get his message—as they issued the invitation for all pilots to sign up for another reduction in force. While Mr. Kellner told those in attendance at the Exchange that all of our plans were in place to accept all new aircraft deliveries on time and to proceed with every bit of our already-announced international expansion, his Flight Operations management team was figuring out how to put more of our fellow pilots on the street. Flight Operations, in keeping with their long-established tradition, provided no notice to our union that another COLA was being talked about, let alone issued. Our MEC chairman, Jay Pierce, called downtown when he heard the news and was told that management was looking for “about six pilots” to take advantage of this new “opportunity” to pay for their own medical, LTD, life insurance, etc., while helping management under-staff our flying even further for this coming summer. Benjamin Franklin was wrong; there are three things certain in life: death, taxes, and management intransigence. How many times have we seen these same plays before? We are now in contract negotiations, and management has dusted off the old Lorenzo playbook they’ve used on us so successfully for years. We have senior pilots who are rightfully worried about another liquidity shortfall later this month due to management’s refusal to adequately “Fund the Future” of our frozen “A” plan, and we have junior pilots clinging to the bottom of our seniority list who are, as a whole, unified and not afraid to fight. Management has set the stage for a perfect “divide and conquer.” But before we walk into the same trap yet again, we need to remember one thing: The historical business practices of our senior management team have shown that the company will grow when it makes good business sense to do so and, conversely, will contract when it makes good business sense to do so. We, as organized labor, have little or no effect on that decision process one way or the other and should refuse to participate in it—especially on management’s terms. For those of you not familiar with Marty Levitt, now is a good time to make his acquaintance. Flight Operations management, or “The Friends of Fred” as we like to call them, really would not like you to know Mr. Levitt—and for good reason: He is the author of Confessions of a Union-Buster and has written extensively on the disgusting tactics employed by management during contract negotiations.

Here are three YouTube links to Mr. Levitt’s presentations:


Part 1 YouTube - Union Busting 101 - Episode 1

Part 2 YouTube - U1TV - Union Busting 101 - "Who Are They?" Episode 2

Part 3 YouTube - U1TV - Union Busting 101-"The Role of Supervisors" Episode 3



In these videos, Mr. Levitt is not speaking specifically about airline pilot labor, and we do not think management would be so foolish as to try to break our union, but the principles of union busting and contract negotiations are the same regardless of the industry. Management has had consultants in the past (Mike Campbell) and has consultants today (Mike Bonds) whose specialty is instilling fear among organized labor groups—and COLA 11 is part of that campaign of fear. As you look at these videos, see if you can put a management name to the people depicted in the presentation; it won’t be hard. By the way, there’s good money in busting unions, crafting campaigns of fear, and putting pilots on the street: Last year Mike Campbell, now working the same job at Delta Air Lines as he held with Continental, pulled down over $6,000,000. ·Item 2: Captain Bill Borelli


From Captain Al Brandano and your new LEC leadership: “Special best wishes to Captain Bill Borelli who is recovering quickly, and will be back to flying status soon.”
·Item 3: Request for Committee Volunteers


All of our committees need volunteers. If you are interested in committee work or if you have special artistic talents of any kind, we want you to help your fellow EWR pilots. If you are interested or have previously expressed interest via e-mail or a phone call, please confirm your continuing interest in an e-mail to Captain Kaye Riggs, Secretary-Treasurer, LEC 170 at [email protected].
·Item 4: EWR Pilot Appointed to the ALPA-PAC Steering Committee


Captain Bill Sablesak was recently appointed to the ALPA-PAC Steering Committee. Captain Sablesak’s duties include guiding the fund-raising efforts of ALPA-PAC and helping to determine how best to spend the money collected. As we all know, in Washington, DC, money talks and Bill will make sure we are talking to the right people.
·Item 5: Colgan Memorial Service


On Saturday, March 7, a memorial service was held at the Newark Marriott Hotel for the crew of Colgan 3407. Many EWR-based Continental pilots, as well as pilots from other bases and other airlines, took part of their day to honor the memory of their fellow aviators.
Colgan is the newest airline to join ALPA, and Captain Mark Segaloff, MEC chairman of Colgan, has expressed his thanks for all the help he and his pilots have received from fellow ALPA pilots, and especially the pilots of Continental, in the weeks since the tragedy of Colgan 3407. Please extend the hand of friendship and welcome to our newest brothers and sisters when you pass them in the EWR terminal. ·Item 6: Next Meetings


Our next LC 170 meeting is scheduled for April 8 at 11:00 at the Newark Airport Marriott.
Our next MEC meeting is scheduled to begin at our union headquarters in Houston on April 21 at 13:00 and run through the 24. After the first day of the MEC meeting, business normally begins at 09:00 but is subject to change based upon workload and schedule. Please make plans to attend either or both of these meetings. Remember, Speakers’ Corner is held daily at 13:00. This is your chance to address your elected representatives directly. ·Item 7: Chairman’s Editorial


Last week marked the 20th anniversary of the Eastern Airlines pilots sympathy strike in support of the Eastern Airlines Machinists Union. I remember it well from my perspective: I had just taken advantage of Continental’s first company-offered leave of absence, COLA 1. I left Continental to join Braniff II, where my initial assignment as a new-hire pilot was in the training department as a B-727 second officer instructor. I had the distinct privilege of training some of the Eastern Airlines strikers who had just resigned their seniority numbers at Eastern to join Braniff II.
It was an interesting perspective since I had only heard one-sided horror stories from the slash-and-burn, scorched-earth Lorenzo managers I had worked under for the previous two years at a non-union/non-ALPA carrier: Continental Airlines. Texas Air Corporation management (Frank Lorenzo) had recently taken over Eastern Airlines for one reason: to pick Eastern apart. Lorenzo never planned to operate Eastern—he only planned to stand upon the carcass of Eastern like a vulture and pick the bones clean. Parts and pieces were all that mattered to Lorenzo. The lives he destroyed in the process were immaterial to him. My personal experience 20 years ago with the striking Eastern Airlines pilots left a strong and profound impression of not only some of the finest aviators I have had the privilege of working with, but also some of the staunchest trade unionists I have had the honor of meeting. They taught me virtually everything I know about being a trade-unionist—and they paid for the lessons. In 1989, the striking Eastern pilots held the line. They didn’t hold the line because of a contractual economic dispute such as we might have with Continental management after being legally permitted to strike by the National Mediation Board (NMB). No, the Eastern pilots went on strike to rid the airline industry of an airline-killer named Frank Lorenzo. I hold the highest regard for the former striking Eastern pilots, and I believe it is appropriate to honor them on this 20th anniversary of their historic strike as they endured the ultimate union sacrifice. Today, all within our industry have benefited because of their unselfish actions—actions that led directly to the banishment of Frank Lorenzo from the U.S. airline industry forever. To the former striking Eastern Airlines pilots, no matter where you are, wear your ALPA battle star pin with pride. I salute you and thank you for your unselfish and historic actions and wish you all blue skies and tailwinds forever.

That’s all for this week. Remember—know the contract, fly the contract, don’t fly sick, don’t fly fatigued, don’t fly hungry when adequate crew meals are not provided, and remember our 147 hostages and their families.

Captain Jayson Baron, EWR Council 170 Chairman

First Officer Tara Cook, EWR, Council 170 Vice Chairman


Captain Kaye Riggs, EWR Council 170 Secretary-Treasurer

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Old 03-12-2009 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RandyBMC
There is rumor over here (at UAL) that the merger thing is still being considered. I would much rather see both airlines operate as a separate entity, but that is beside the point.

Any rumors on your side of the fence at CAL? I am worried on the outcome of either scenario, as I am sitting 40 numbers from the bottom of UAL, with more furloughs expected in September (after the April and May furloughs) taking us all the way down to 6440 pilots (and I am 6928 as a March 2000 hire).

Thought I'd ask the other guys if they are hearing anything...

Thanks!
Randy
FWIW - just flew with a captain about 2 weeks ago that said the mgt came in and talked to them at their last recur. The CAL leadership sat down and compared UAL's books directly with CAL's and it wasn't even close. No merger in the works - from CAL's side of the house.
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Old 03-12-2009 | 05:30 AM
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I hear the same. CAL managemnet is NOT interested in a merger. Things can change, of course. A few pilots will spread rumors of mergers, but they are the few who want one.
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Old 03-12-2009 | 10:25 AM
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[quote=CAL EWR;577061]EWR LEC 170 Wednesday BlastMail




CAL COUNCIL 170 LEC UPDATE




Today is Wednesday, March 11, and there are 7 items for discussion:


·Item 1: COLA 11


“Our best days are ahead of us,” said Larry Kellner last Friday at the EWR CEO Exchange. Meanwhile, 1,500 miles away in Houston, Mr. Kellner’s own Flight Operations management team apparently did not get his message—as they issued the invitation for all pilots to sign up for another reduction in force. While Mr. Kellner told those in attendance at the Exchange that all of our plans were in place to accept all new aircraft deliveries on time and to proceed with every bit of our already-announced international expansion, his Flight Operations management team was figuring out how to put more of our fellow pilots on the street. Flight Operations, in keeping with their long-established tradition, provided no notice to our union that another COLA was being talked about, let alone issued. Our MEC chairman, Jay Pierce, called downtown when he heard the news and was told that management was looking for “about six pilots” to take advantage of this new “opportunity” to pay for their own medical, LTD, life insurance, etc., while helping management under-staff our flying even further for this coming summer. Benjamin Franklin was wrong; there are three things certain in life: death, taxes, and management intransigence. How many times have we seen these same plays before? We are now in contract negotiations, and management has dusted off the old Lorenzo playbook they’ve used on us so successfully for years. We have senior pilots who are rightfully worried about another liquidity shortfall later this month due to management’s refusal to adequately “Fund the Future” of our frozen “A” plan, and we have junior pilots clinging to the bottom of our seniority list who are, as a whole, unified and not afraid to fight. Management has set the stage for a perfect “divide and conquer.” But before we walk into the same trap yet again, we need to remember one thing: The historical business practices of our senior management team have shown that the company will grow when it makes good business sense to do so and, conversely, will contract when it makes good business sense to do so. We, as organized labor, have little or no effect on that decision process one way or the other and should refuse to participate in it—especially on management’s terms. For those of you not familiar with Marty Levitt, now is a good time to make his acquaintance. Flight Operations management, or “The Friends of Fred” as we like to call them, really would not like you to know Mr. Levitt—and for good reason: He is the author of Confessions of a Union-Buster and has written extensively on the disgusting tactics employed by management during contract negotiations.

Here are three YouTube links to Mr. Levitt’s presentations:

Part 1 YouTube - Union Busting 101 - Episode 1

Part 2 YouTube - U1TV - Union Busting 101 - "Who Are They?" Episode 2

Part 3 YouTube - U1TV - Union Busting 101-"The Role of Supervisors" Episode 3


In these videos, Mr. Levitt is not speaking specifically about airline pilot labor, and we do not think management would be so foolish as to try to break our union, but the principles of union busting and contract negotiations are the same regardless of the industry. Management has had consultants in the past (Mike Campbell) and has consultants today (Mike Bonds) whose specialty is instilling fear among organized labor groups—and COLA 11 is part of that campaign of fear. As you look at these videos, see if you can put a management name to the people depicted in the presentation; it won’t be hard. By the way, there’s good money in busting unions, crafting campaigns of fear, and putting pilots on the street: Last year Mike Campbell, now working the same job at Delta Air Lines as he held with Continental, pulled down over $6,000,000. _quote]

All pilots would be well served to educate themselves concerning the work of Ford and Harrison LLP. Practice Area: Labor Relations :: Ford Harrison

I don't think many pilots even imagined a service like this to exist. I know I didn't. Not until they were retained by a former employer during our successful union drive. Mike Cambell has worked for them in the past. Know thy enemy.
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Old 03-13-2009 | 02:42 PM
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This sure is totally opposite of what I heard about Continental. I heard just a couple of weeks ago that they were talking about hiring at the end of the year. I heard that from several people.
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Old 03-13-2009 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76
This sure is totally opposite of what I heard about Continental. I heard just a couple of weeks ago that they were talking about hiring at the end of the year. I heard that from several people.
You can rest assured that us CAL pilots will be the last to know about any hiring.
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Old 03-13-2009 | 05:04 PM
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They may be adjusting to the economy. Cutting 5% this year is not hiring, unless we get some retirements. The 5% cuts include all CAL flights I believe (includes Express & Connection).??
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