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G-Dog 03-09-2009 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Schwartz (Post 575152)
Mid Atlantic wasn't even an airline. Even if RAH buys Compass, We won't be stapled. I do agree though that there will be no staple for CP.

How do you see it playing out?

Phlying Phallus 03-09-2009 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 575146)
It's funny how people gripe that mainline pilots SOLD OUT on scope. Then when a pilot group is actually starting a campaign to recapture the said scope, we get scoffed at and told it'll never happen. Thanks for the support.:rolleyes:

That's because you have no leverage. The only time you will have leverage is when you are in Section 6 and make it a strike issue. Even then, if the company is smart, they will dangle a big enough pay carrott in front of 51% of the pilot group and all of a sudden scope "isn't that important" anymore. :rolleyes:

Schwartz 03-09-2009 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by G-Dog (Post 575155)
How do you see it playing out?

Arbitration. See Allegheny-Mohawk LPP (1972). How do you see it playing out?

capncrunch 03-09-2009 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Schwartz (Post 575161)
Arbitration. See Allegheny-Mohawk LPP (1972). How do you see it playing out?

HAHAHA.

I will tell you how it would play out, you'd get stapled and then furloughed.

RJForever 03-09-2009 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Killer51883 (Post 575139)
compass pilots have a better chance of being stapled to the RAH seniority list than the delta list. This whole deal just reaks of another mid atlantic debacle.

Feeling a little left out?

Don't worry, maybe RAH pilots will be stapled to the bottom of a teamsters seniority list somewhere!

G-Dog 03-09-2009 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Schwartz (Post 575161)
Arbitration. See Allegheny-Mohawk LPP (1972). How do you see it playing out?

Just how much integration will there be for a company whose pilot list is about a year old?

Schwartz 03-09-2009 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 575170)
HAHAHA.

I will tell you how it would play out, you'd get stapled and then furloughed.

Why do you think that? I assume you work for the almighty BB... It's a different landscape than the Shuttle or Mid Atlantic acquisition you know.

Schwartz 03-09-2009 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by G-Dog (Post 575180)
Just how much integration will there be for a company whose pilot list is about a year old?

Since when has date of hire been used? What about my several years at another airline? Is RAH your first? Give me my date of hire at my first airline and I assure you that you'll still be saying "clear right".

I know, my date of hire is irrelevant at my previous company, as is yours if RAH is not your first. When two companies merge their lists, date of hire is not used because there are large variations between companies. If RAH were to buy Compass, we have a new law to test out that was signed into law back in 2007. It requires allegheny-mohawk LPP to be followed; whatever your contract says is no longer relevant as it was for the Shuttle & Mid Atlantic acquisitions.

capncrunch 03-09-2009 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Schwartz (Post 575181)
Why do you think that? I assume you work for the almighty BB... It's a different landscape than the Shuttle or Mid Atlantic acquisition you know.

Which would you rather be, a two year pilot at Compass or an April 08 hire at Delta? I would imagine 100% of Compass pilots would answer that question the same way...

I work for Delta North.

UnlimitedAkro 03-09-2009 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Schwartz (Post 575185)
Since when has date of hire been used? What about my several years at another airline? Is RAH your first? Give me my date of hire at my first airline and I assure you that you'll still be saying "clear right".

Thats why half of these guys cry for a staple, I wouldnt want 300 pilots who were hired at ALPA carriers years ago to be put on the list in front of me either. But there is no point in this discussion, Compass wont end up at RAH in a million years.


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