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calcapt 05-18-2006 08:23 AM

Thanks
 

Originally Posted by 757Driver
Done.



As usual, a very classy reply. Never even considered we weren't.


I am proud to be your co-worker. We have lots of work ahead though!

Daytripper 05-19-2006 05:46 AM


Continental has a young and fuel efficient fleet.

But it is not like Continental has a super fuel efficient fleet.
Young and fuel efficient........but not "super" fuel efficient. Rubber band powered??? Please elaborate Mr. RyanE.


C'mon guys. See Smiseks comments for what they were. He was talking to an investment community. Pumping the stock. Chest-thumping. They took a $4.00 stock to nearly $30.00 so far as a result of their excellent management.(I know, on the backs of the employees...I'm with you!)
I think everybody knows CAL's history. He wants the money guys to feel good about the stock. Should he have acknowledged CAL's road to their current cost structure?? Not sure what good that would have done. Those types only care about where the company is going....and how it's going to get there.

ryane946 05-19-2006 07:07 AM

How about the 737-300.
How about the 767-200.

These are NOT the most fuel efficient planes flying today. Continental has over 100 of these planes. If you read the article, it makes it sound like every other airline is flying "gas guzzling SUV's" while Continental is flying superior "Hybrid's." That is not true.
United has a very similar looking fleet to Continental. There is hardly any advantage in fuel efficiency between fleets.

The only airline where I think Continental has a big advantage over is Northwest, with their old DC-9's, DC-10's, and 747-200's. Continental does not have much of an advantage in fuel efficiency over the other majors.

ERJ135 05-19-2006 07:34 AM

Isn't the 787 supposed to replace the 767-200 and the 757-200? The 787 should be a fuel efficient beast:p

Daytripper 05-19-2006 09:28 AM


How about the 737-300.
How about the 767-200.

These are NOT the most fuel efficient planes flying today. Continental has over 100 of these planes.
CAL does have a lot of 737's. But when you eventually do some research, you'll find that the -300's are few and far between. Highest percentage are NG's , which make up the bulk of the domestic fleet. As opposed to DAL, AMR, who have the MD-80's and NWAC who have a vast array of DC 9's.....yes, more efficient. Your research should have also turned up the fact of CAL's widspread use of winglets....on about 80% of the domestic fleet as well as the gas-guzzling 757's.


United has a very similar looking fleet to Continental
.

Well...minus a few Airbusses and a 747 or two. :eek:

Good grief. :cool:

calcapt 05-19-2006 10:15 AM

now I see?
 

Originally Posted by Sr. Barco

This Ryan guy is one of the most uninformed on the forum to be sure. I wonder how many times he's even been on an airliner in his life. We have guys on this forum who are actually airline pilots, who jumpseat all over the world on various carriers and we're supposed to believe the "facts" of a CFI? Sorry, I'll stick with the opinions of the pros.

S.B.

After Ryane946's last post I am now convinced you are right. I wonder if he ever finds time to flight instruct? We should establish a "pretend I know something" category on this forum. He would own the first post to be sure!

ryane946 05-19-2006 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Daytripper

Well...minus a few Airbusses and a 747 or two. :eek:

Good grief. :cool:

Similar, the word I used was SIMILAR.
Similar amounts of 737-300/500's
Continental has 737NG's, United has Airbuses. Similar.
Similar 757,767,777

The only difference that is not very similar is the 747-400. And they have about 40 of these. And you know what, there is a reason why they are still flying. When you are lucky like United, and you have rights to fly many of those hard to get pacific flights (China, Australia, etc...), it makes much more sense to put a 747-400 with 100 more seats than a 777. Because you can only have one frequency a day, the extra seats are valuable, and more than make up the difference in fuel efficiency.

calcapt 05-19-2006 06:37 PM

Relax
 

Originally Posted by ryane946
Similar, the word I used was SIMILAR.
Similar amounts of 737-300/500's
Continental has 737NG's, United has Airbuses. Similar.
Similar 757,767,777

The only difference that is not very similar is the 747-400. And they have about 40 of these. And you know what, there is a reason why they are still flying. When you are lucky like United, and you have rights to fly many of those hard to get pacific flights (China, Australia, etc...), it makes much more sense to put a 747-400 with 100 more seats than a 777. Because you can only have one frequency a day, the extra seats are valuable, and more than make up the difference in fuel efficiency.


Ryane946:

It is fine that you are pro United and hopefully someday you will be able to fly for your favorite airline. We all have our passions about things and our favorite airlines. It is OK with all of us on the forum that you are a big fan of United and as far as I am concerned, just keep your posts factual and we can forum together for years to come. Good Luck!

Daytripper 05-20-2006 01:08 PM

FACTS......the word I used was FACTS.



And they have about 40 of these. And you know what, there is a reason why they are still flying. When you are lucky like United, and you have rights to fly many of those hard to get pacific flights (China, Australia, etc...), it makes much more sense to put a 747-400 with 100 more seats than a 777. Because you can only have one frequency a day, the extra seats are valuable, and more than make up the difference in fuel efficiency.
You're right. I can't understand CAL not getting 74's to fly their China routes.....Bejing and Hong Kong......soon to Shanghai. The 777's and the lack of seats...they MUST be losing a fortune on those routes due to lack of efficiency. I'm sure there is a few in the desert that could be utilized.
It sure sounds as if you want to work at UAL.......so I hope you have your resume in. Some time on the line would do wonders for your post. Tilton....he's 'da man!!:D

CargoBob 05-22-2006 11:16 AM

Chill United Defender
 
I think CO CEO was comparing AA and CO.

AA is nickle and diming big time:
- charges $2.00 a bag to cubside check
- removed blankets or pillows (1 of the 2)
- no meals in coach.

AA has a fuel inefficient fleet.
MD-80s

I jumpseat on all airlines and think CAL has the best service of the Legacy.
AA and CAL will do allright...DAL and UAL--we'll see.

I predict UAL to visit Bankruptcy atleast one more time...


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