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ExperimentalAB 05-01-2009 05:09 PM

Politician...wouldn't expect anything more! And he's not even good at it yet LoL

jungle 05-01-2009 05:13 PM

OK, everybody got the word in, no more need for direct political references. There is more than enough imploding to go around. Everybody can have a heaping serving. Thanks.:)

tsquare 05-01-2009 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 604406)
Politician...wouldn't expect anything more! And he's not even good at it yet LoL

YET?!?!?!? and he's only been doing it for 30 years. I guess by that metric he'll never be a good VP.

BigGuns 05-01-2009 06:20 PM

This pretty much sums it up....
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forgot to bid 05-01-2009 06:30 PM

In a congressional environment that is very anti-business did RA's letter, which I think was necessary and well said, just make Delta a target?

And before the moderators shut this threat down on account of me, I do think it matters. I don't want to be Ford right now if the government and UAW could possibly be getting 51% and 39% control (90% combined) of GM. I feel that when your competitor is owned by the regulators and auditors thats not good for you despite your politics. And any further down turn in the economy could see airlines being labeled too big to fail and therein nationalized to some degree like GM.

I mean say there is a crisis and lets say multiple airlines would go into Chapter 11 again, whats to say a favorite wouldn't be chosen out of the lot? Reuters had an article on today that said this: On the corporate front, the federal government's pumping of billions of dollars in bailout money into banks and auto companies has given Obama the power to force an overhaul in those industries, a remarkable intervention in capitalist industries by the state.

So say the chosen carrier is... United, a Chicago based airline. Then, you could have a situation in which UAL gets an unfair advantage, or a merger is forced upon CAL and the other carriers like DAL, AMR and SWA have stricter oversight while UAL gets less, etc. And the more you complain, the more life becomes difficult.

I am happy RA wrote the letter, I just wonder if we have a new and large D.C. based political dynamic to deal with out there that we haven't had to calculate into our industry before and so do you think its possible we could have a situation like GM occur to one of the Legacy carriers?

SmoothOnTop 05-01-2009 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 604155)
Excerpt from the APC TOS:



Topics Not for Discussion

There are currently NO forums that provide a venue for discussing politics or religion.

I respectfully disagree.

Under the Pilot's Lounge we here at APC have a "Union Talk" section.

This is clearly a venue for discussing politics.

99.5% of the candidates that alpa-pac (for instance) supports were/are democrats.

In Great Britain they call it the labour party.

Certainly our "Union Talk" section is a 'democrat' venue.


As to the topic:

Aviation has certainly taken it on the chin in the past 6 months.

We pilots should stand up and protect our livelihood.

And it's okay to disagree...that's what we Americans do.

233 years and still going strong!

Blockoutblockin 05-02-2009 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by SmoothOnTop (Post 604504)


233 years and still going strong!

By what metric(s)?

IC ALL 05-02-2009 07:41 AM

The thread has drifted into commentary and questions on APC policy. Debates about site policy don't belong at the forums, rather, questions and comments should be directed to the admins. That's HSLD or Freight Dog. Thread closed.


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