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DeadHead 05-15-2009 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed (Post 611198)
You make a good point. Compounding this problem is all the money being spent in Iraq and Afghanistan war with no reimbursement of any kind from Iraq. It is also reprehensible that Bankers gave themselves millions of Dollars in bonus using taxpayer bailout money. Our Government should go after these greedy individuals and make them pay back all the money they "stole" from the US taxpayers.

Our government is just as guilty to blame, in fact even more so, for the exploitation of credit and acidic abuse of our banking system.
When you don't establish, regulate, and enforce laws that prevent a thief from stealing, don't be surprised when every joe schmo in a fancy suite takes billions out of the federal governments' coffers under the guise a federal bailout towards U.S. economic recovery.

Sorry for the thread drift, off my economic-government social policy rant.

Anyone have an idea when the PERPS will be offered (Assuming ALPA agrees to the terms from management)?

I'd imagine they will wait until this summer before thinning out the staffing levels, but again that's just a guess?

Bucking Bar 05-15-2009 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 610466)
That is not good, you are the only source that will provide any insight as to what might be going on. Did someone request that you hold back?

Sort of. He's flying 90+ hours this month.

NWA320pilot 05-15-2009 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 611285)
Sort of. He's flying 90+ hours this month.

I never understood why guys fly so much especially when the F word is floating around..... If guys would back off to 75 hours or so there might even be a need to hire at some point. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy.

Eric Stratton 05-15-2009 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 611290)
I never understood why guys fly so much especially when the F word is floating around..... If guys would back off to 75 hours or so there might even be a need to hire at some point. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy.

Sometimes???

capncrunch 05-15-2009 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 611290)
Sometimes we are our own worst enemy.

60% of the time, we are our worst enemy every time.

80ktsClamp 05-15-2009 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 611305)
60% of the time, we are our worst enemy every time.


Furlough Panther... made from bits of actual junior pilots.

sailingfun 05-15-2009 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 611290)
I never understood why guys fly so much especially when the F word is floating around..... If guys would back off to 75 hours or so there might even be a need to hire at some point. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy.


The company can build lines to 89.5 hours if they like. Not much choice when that happens. The days of the 75 hour cap at Delta are 10 years past.

Bucking Bar 05-15-2009 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 611290)
I never understood why guys fly so much especially when the F word is floating around..... If guys would back off to 75 hours or so there might even be a need to hire at some point. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy.

PBS built his line. No one is on furlough.

Might as well make some hay while the sun shines.

Jetrecruiter 05-15-2009 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 607490)
Carl, it's not a 3% "penalty". That may be how the math is calculated (I don't really know how your plan works), but its really just a stretching out of the payments.

For example, pilot "A" retires at 60 and gets $100,000 per year for 25 years (on average).

Pilot "B" retires at 55 and gets $85,000 but he gets it for 30 years.

Same pot of money, just being drawn over a longer period. That seems fair to me.

PG

I take it and go do something for myself...

acl65pilot 05-15-2009 03:31 PM

FWIW, when I guy wants to drop a 25 hr trip, I am more than willing to help him out.

Me flying a lot is not the reason I am not posting though. Just have not felt the need nor the desire to add to the conversation.


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