I just got off the phone with a former Air Force pilot. This guy is about 80 years old. At one time he was going to fly for NWA back in the 50's. He told me about how when NW only had DC-3 and DC-4 and how the pilots would sometimes only fly for half a year. The other half the guys would be out of work and how they complained about pay and other issues that are still affecting the industry today.

So keeping things in perspective, according to the gentleman I just got off the phone with, pilots have had the issue of pay since the beginning. Glory days...sounds like there never were any. JMO.

atp

I agree.. I know quite a few who started out and gave up when they found out about pay and QOL. Always thought to myself that I hope it will means a pilot shortage and better pay for me.

New Stategy !!
 

What if we all work to drive the pay and benefits even further into the ground until the weak are driven off and the new are discouraged? Then once the flood of pilots has subsided we can demand higher pay. SO what do you think?

Skyhigh

SkyHigh, did you ever fly the 707, 727, md80?

atpwannabe, I started with Delta in October, 1966. I was an 8 year veteran of the USMC with 1350 hours of single engine fighter time (that won`t get you a job with a commuter now). I started as a flight engineer on DC6&7`s. I had a wonderful career, flew the L100, DC 9`s DC 8`s, L1011, MD 80`s 757, and finally the 767. I flew both domestically and internationally. I made a lot of friends, a lot on money, got a wopper of a retirement check. I`m not sure what exactly the "Glory Days" are, but if they existed, I had them, and they will be back. The pendulum swings both ways. There is an old saying in the Marine Corps.." a bitching Marine is a happy Marine"...must be a few real happy guys on this forum....

No Sir
 

Sorry my big jet experience is in the 757-200 and the government bought me a 737-400 type.

SkyHigh

Well, who knows maybe it will come down to that:rolleyes: Its definitly unfortunate and only time will tell.

Why are you still here?

No, AOPA/Barry Schiff is NOT writing articles similar to your postings. To do so, they would have had to include some pilot and some ALPA bashing; they did not.

Believe you me, you're not the only pilot who realizes that the career isn't exactly glorious at the present, but you are one of a very small number who thinks that it is your fellow pilots and their union at fault.

SkyBolt

Gloom, despair, and misery on me. Deep dark depression, excessive misery, etc. I do miss Hee-Haw. RIP Buck Owens.

Man, I'm starting to feel sorry for you. It must suck to be you, and to carry the bitterness that you carry. Step away from the keyboard and go hug your kids.

skybolt

Maybe I missed it, I'm fairly new to this site. Is skybolt somebody important, or does he/she simply think that only their point of view holds water...seriously? Who are you?