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05-20-2009 | 06:33 PM

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QCappy

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Originally Posted by turbodriver

This furloughed AS pilot will never forget how ALPA screwed me.......

Combine us with the new hires who wil not have a A plan, and our numbers will be bigger over time. You old geezers better hope you're retired and gone when this happens cause we'll out vote your old a$$ess.....

You certainly are a pleasant fellow. I don't think I've ever seen you post anything positive. It's almost sad. Seriously though, I know your situation sucks. If I could buy you a case of beer, I would.

05-20-2009 | 08:17 PM

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Riiiight

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Originally Posted by skid

Now that this mess is over for the time being is there much chance of call backs of furloughs? I know FA's are only lookin at tempo call backs. Hopefully we can now see some movement!

Also for the senior people is there much drive built in here to retire after the ratification or will this contract actually slow retirements down more?

Furlough recalls after this TA? No way. This TA, if anything, will create additional furloughs.
This TA was a pot sweetening TA for the old farts. Unless they medical out they're not going anywhere now. The economy + 401k losses + sweet TA for the geezers = Age 65 for ALL.

05-20-2009 | 10:43 PM

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Tell me you're just as pleasant when your butt is out in the fall......

05-21-2009 | 12:13 AM

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Tell me you're just as pleasant when your butt is out in the fall......

First of all, it won't be. Second, I guess the "nicety" was lost upon you. You just seem to be overly nasty about a business decision that thousands before you have had to experience in this industry. Honestly, I thought I was going to be furloughed with the rest of you. However, business is business. If it made sense to furlough me they would have. So be it. As it was I was spared. My feelings toward the company wouldn't change. I have several friends who were furloughed. If you know me, then you know that I have a very good understanding of the AAG and how these monkeys operate this carnival.

When you get a sheeite sandwich you make it taste like peanutbutter.

05-21-2009 | 06:19 AM

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I thought all furloughed pilots would stay on the A-plan. Is this not the case?

GP

05-21-2009 | 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by av8instyle

This TA was a pot sweetening TA for the old farts.

85% of AK are not 'old farts', though.

If it only benefits the really senior guys and is essentially the end of your A plan if you're under 47 or so, why did it pass with such a high %?

05-21-2009 | 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy

I thought all furloughed pilots would stay on the A-plan. Is this not the case?

GP

The people on furlough can keep the A plan. Only guys hired after 12/31/09 will only have a 401(k).

05-21-2009 | 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniper

85% of AK are not 'old farts', though.

If it only benefits the really senior guys and is essentially the end of your A plan if you're under 47 or so, why did it pass with such a high %?

There are actually several reasons, but the primary one is they are a bunch of weak d!cks.

05-21-2009 | 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by QCappy

The people on furlough can keep the A plan. Only guys hired after 12/31/09 will only have a 401(k).

And to set the record straight it is not the end of the "A" plan for anyone except incumbents that choose to freeze their "A" plan and for all new hires.