Delta / NWA Freighters outsourced
05-29-2009, 03:08 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I got the e-mail from the union on this.
It does not change the fact that once we see more than our JFK-CDG flights given to others in this JV, senior guys may take notice of scope, and its effects on everyone on the seniority list.
It does not change the fact that once we see more than our JFK-CDG flights given to others in this JV, senior guys may take notice of scope, and its effects on everyone on the seniority list.
Your right. We gave up one flight to Air France. Of course as a result of the agreement we started SLC-CDG, 4 LHR flights and are planning PHL, PIT and RDU to CDG on the next 12 months. None of which would have happened if we were not in the alliance. If we were to drop out of the alliance we would see a large reduction in international flying not a gain.
05-29-2009, 03:18 PM
#42
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I am not proposing dropping out at all sailing. I think it is a great way to secure our place at the top of the heap. What I am saying, is lets not make the same mistakes to the top end as we did to the bottom.
Lucky for us, we are the cheap labor and AF and KLM are the expensive ones. But, we need to deal with that too!
Lucky for us, we are the cheap labor and AF and KLM are the expensive ones. But, we need to deal with that too!
05-29-2009, 05:35 PM
#43
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Your right. We gave up one flight to Air France. Of course as a result of the agreement we started SLC-CDG, 4 LHR flights and are planning PHL, PIT and RDU to CDG on the next 12 months. None of which would have happened if we were not in the alliance. If we were to drop out of the alliance we would see a large reduction in international flying not a gain.
Although on the surface it looks like Air France is taking from us, Delta and ua pilots are gaining a lot from the JV.
05-30-2009, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
You're kidding, right?
You want the union to refute every rumor and false statement put out by any reporter or webboard liar anywhere?
This one article by one reporter was completely wrong. It has been out since May 26. It was refuted May 29, with information that was not yet public derived only from ALPA's access to management. And you bash the union for going through the proper process with management to address your concerns....
Reminds me of the "gross weight increase" that sent the scope chickens running...
Chicken Little, the sky is falling!
You want the union to refute every rumor and false statement put out by any reporter or webboard liar anywhere?
This one article by one reporter was completely wrong. It has been out since May 26. It was refuted May 29, with information that was not yet public derived only from ALPA's access to management. And you bash the union for going through the proper process with management to address your concerns....
Reminds me of the "gross weight increase" that sent the scope chickens running...
Chicken Little, the sky is falling!
You're right, I jumped the gun as usual.
Thanks for putting it into perspective.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
The union was bound by a non disclosure agreement. They had to go through the company to release what was put out today.
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