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cfitstew 05-29-2009 03:57 PM

"I'm Larry Kellner, Continental's chairman and chief executive officer. On behalf of my 40,000 coworkers who are among the most professional men and women in the business."

So is this red coat who he's talking about?

Time for Captains to start taking some authority back. It's high time we stop giving in to airline management through fear. Well done Captain.

Blockoutblockin 05-29-2009 04:08 PM

I'm not surprised! This company is turning into a feces depository (otherwise known as you know what). I'm going to copy this article and forward it to a few people I know in the Pentagon. I think General Lynch would be interested in seeing this as well. CAL wants to play this game fine but suffer the consequences.

One way or another this Lorenzo type mentality is going to be eradicated. Just so there is no confusion this behavior is being exhibited all across our system; Guam, Seattle, Fort Myers, Cleveland, etc. There's no discrimination here - it's everywhere.

Jetlinker 05-29-2009 04:23 PM

Honestly, as despicable as this is, it doesn't surprise me at all. It's just the CAL culture doing its thing. The gate agents (ruthless gestapo) treat their own employees like crap (I've seen it firsthand), why would they treat wounded military any different? Many folks there seem to have an itchy trigger finger.

Rather B Fishin 05-29-2009 04:24 PM

757 Driver, thank you for your compassion to a wounded Marine. Please don't let the bastards get you down, there are times in life when you need to stand up for principles and not just for what would make your life/job easier. No matter what the repercussion, you did what was right and what was honorable. I think if the company wants to proceed with the termination hearing than EVERYONE of your pilots should submit their letters of resignation. As an OAL pilot I have stood inline with your pilot group before and will glady stand next to you should the need arise. Please let us know what we can do to help.

Blockoutblockin 05-29-2009 04:25 PM

Badwill (it costs money)
 
Continental sure is getting some interesting press/exposure lately. From the bogus comment in the press in reference to the "average $900K pension for each pilot" to the Japanese Embassy/Swine Flu debacle, to now this latest fiasco, Continental is on track to get some real substantive feedback from the press, the military, the families of the military, and from its own pilots.

Of course this is fine with me. I say let's get all of this out on the table for all to see and let the chips fall where they may.

Blockoutblockin 05-29-2009 04:54 PM

A copy of the post is now on its way to either General Conway, or Cartwright, whoever happens to be in town. We'll see how long it takes to trickle back to Houston.

loungelzrd 05-29-2009 05:22 PM

Doctor Who?
 
I'm no rocket surgeon, but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, and this just does not pass the sniff test.
I cannot believe that a U.S. Military medical facility would allow a person with a head injury severe enough to require surgery, who is in great pain, and unable to walk unassisted to travel on a civil aircraft in any class of service.
Granted, I've been out of the service a long time, but please tell me that they still have aircraft that can be configured for Med Evac based out in the Pacific somewhere. And Flight Nurses?
Something is wrong here.:confused:

jdt30 05-29-2009 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by loungelzrd (Post 619271)
I'm no rocket surgeon, but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, and this just does not pass the sniff test.
I cannot believe that a U.S. Military medical facility would allow a person with a head injury severe enough to require surgery, who is in great pain, and unable to walk unassisted to travel on a civil aircraft in any class of service.
Granted, I've been out of the service a long time, but please tell me that they still have aircraft that can be configured for Med Evac based out in the Pacific somewhere. And Flight Nurses?
Something is wrong here.:confused:

Yes, they do have Med Evac flights, but if there is commercial air service going where they need it the military will use it. I've done Med Evac while in the military, and I now fly for Cal so I've seen both. But you are definately right something is wrong here, and by here I mean CAL.

15789 05-29-2009 05:42 PM

Hey 757Driver, I am a former member of our armed forces, and I want to thank you for what you did.

Remember the "Red Coats" back in the late 1700's were about projecting the power of the English Monarchy, and often did so at the expense of all who were around. This "Red Coat" sounds to be no different, only rather than a musket and bayonet the "Red Coat" used conjecture, slander, and Liable-a political/beauracrattic(sp) tri-fecta.

Again Thanks on behalf of my self and other former service men like me.

sailingfun 05-29-2009 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by loungelzrd (Post 619271)
I'm no rocket surgeon, but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, and this just does not pass the sniff test.
I cannot believe that a U.S. Military medical facility would allow a person with a head injury severe enough to require surgery, who is in great pain, and unable to walk unassisted to travel on a civil aircraft in any class of service.
Granted, I've been out of the service a long time, but please tell me that they still have aircraft that can be configured for Med Evac based out in the Pacific somewhere. And Flight Nurses?
Something is wrong here.:confused:

I have to agree. A wounded Marine with a severe head injury would never be sent commercial air. I suspect most of the story is correct but the extent of his injuries could not have been that bad. In fact airlines forbid travel for passengers with severe injuries. They have to take medivac flights.


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