Originally Posted by whiskey72 (Post 620066)

And therein lies the method in which they keep us from doing it. Fear of reprocussion. If everyone stood together, there is absolutely nothing they could do without us slapping them right back again and again...and again.

We would win. They cannot produce enough skilled labor fast enough to take anyone of us out of the loop. Unity is the power. Now, where is the unity??

Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 620149)

If the legacy airlines were able to strike it would only make it easier for the regionals and LCC's to take over. Most of them are hanging by a thread as it is.

The best plan is to get use to being broke and gone all the time. Lower your lifetime expectations. Plan on working long after retirement. Expect a 22 year old to take your job at half the price. Reduce your dreams from a wife and kids to a plant and part time girl friend. Find satisfaction in the lonesome sparse solitude of the studio apartment.

Why fight it?

SKyhigh

Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY (Post 620162)

And why not fight it ?
What happened to the American spirit of fighting for what you beleive in ?
That is one of the main problems today and so many people are willing to roll over and not take a stand when they absolutely schould .
With honor comes the courage to do the right thing.


Fred

Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 620166)

Sometimes it is better to bend to the overwhelming forces of nature. We only have one life to live. It could take a lifetime to make a dent in the tide that is on its way in. A better plan is to limit ones self to battles that are winnable.

If you want to fly then you have to brace yourself for the lifestyle that comes with it.

Skyhigh

Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY (Post 620179)

Most battles are winnable if you have the fortitude to go the distance .
The lifestyle varies for each individual and I do agree on point that one schould do as much homework looking into this career before jumping into it before realizing 4-6 years down the road that they made a mistake.
I have no crystal ball so there is no telling what this biz will be like 10 years from now.
BTW hows the weather up there ?


Fred

Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 620182)

This profession already demands too much. A life of sacrifice and open ended poverty sounds more like the quest of a monk. That is why I say to give into the punishment. The battle is lost.

Thanks for asking. The weather is very pleasant here today. Hot but a nice breeze is keeping things cool.

Skyhigh

Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 620149)

If the legacy airlines were able to strike it would only make it easier for the regionals and LCC's to take over. Most of them are hanging by a thread as it is.

The best plan is to get use to being broke and gone all the time. Lower your lifetime expectations. Plan on working long after retirement. Expect a 22 year old to take your job at half the price. Reduce your dreams from a wife and kids to a plant and part time girl friend. Find satisfaction in the lonesome sparse solitude of the studio apartment.

Why fight it?

SKyhigh

Originally Posted by Joachim (Post 620040)

It is also clear that that no one pilot group can change the situation. If one group manages to negotiate an industry leading contract another company with a lesser contract will likely benefit from it as they become more competitive. Therefore some pilots are actually apprehensive about getting a better deal. I do not think however that management is inherently evil. I believe that we a just a part in the proverbial race for the bottom.

We are responsible for the way were treated. When we are threatened with pay cuts and furloughs, we coward and give in and herein lies the problem. Instead of accepting pay cuts pilots need to not be afraid of furloughs. Pilots need to be furloughed and companies need to shrink. The industry is experiencing wide fluctuations following deregulation.
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh (Post 620149)

If the legacy airlines were able to strike it would only make it easier for the regionals and LCC's to take over. Most of them are hanging by a thread as it is.

The best plan is to get use to being broke and gone all the time. Lower your lifetime expectations. Plan on working long after retirement. Expect a 22 year old to take your job at half the price. Reduce your dreams from a wife and kids to a plant and part time girl friend. Find satisfaction in the lonesome sparse solitude of the studio apartment.

Why fight it?

SKyhigh