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Actually, after listening to Glenn-2 N's little tidbit this morning, I now actually believe we will order and take delivery of those airplanes. He will park 200, and buy 150. Sounds just like business as usual at good ole' UAL.

Don't worry I'm sure this pilot group will happily give up another 30 or 40% to pay for it all.;)

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Originally Posted by FlyinPiker (Post 622503)

Probably more CAL fleet alignment with 787's, 777-300's, 737-900's, etc.

You don't ask Airbus for airplanes as part of fleet alignment with CAL.

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Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 622705)

You don't ask Airbus for airplanes as part of fleet alignment with CAL.

But you do if you are trying to leverage two suppliers against each other to get a better price...

I heard the orders were a combined order from the Aurora, Revelle, and Monogram aircraft model companies... assembly required and batteries not included.:D

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Originally Posted by OlyRob (Post 622715)

But you do if you are trying to leverage two suppliers against each other to get a better price...

Bingo. I think I remember Delta doing the same thing in the last year or so even though it's no secret they seem to have a big hard on for 777's.

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Originally Posted by Ottopilot (Post 622705)

You don't ask Airbus for airplanes as part of fleet alignment with CAL.

Back when UAL went on their Airbus ordering spree, Boeing was not "too happy" about that....."first time shame on me, second time shame on you" comes to mind if UAL is going to try and pit the "Boeing vs Airbus" rematch this time around. Besides, UAL is no where near the financial position they were years back when ushering such a deal as they did with their Buses.

Will be interesting to see how pitting the two aircraft manufactures will be this time. CAL's relationship with Boeing without a doubt was established when Gordon came over to CAL years back from Boeing....something that CAL has worked are to maintain thus being an all Boeing Fleet.

Besides Seabury possibly being the "consultant" on the deal, has anyone heard intel on who is going to be financing this order???....No secret, not a really easy to just secure this type of order as it was in the past....especially when Glenn's at the helm.:eek:

Time will tell...:cool:

As many have pointed out, an important metric for pilots is total fleet size.

Doing the math on this reported order, the net United fleet size will be less than it now, and about a third of what it was 10 years ago. The gutting of United as an aircraft operator continues.

this quite is from another forum, but it does apply to ALL pilots negotiating a CBA:

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I am a pilot, I fly airplanes. I can fly old ones just as well as new ones. What I demand is to be compensated reasonably for my professional knowledge and the license I carry that allows me to fly those airplanes.

Buying corporate assets is a corporate decision made at the director level. It should have NOTHING to do with how our contract is negotiated.

Do not look at this bright shiny new piece of equipment being dangled in front of you. If you do, you are taking your eye off the real issue, a reasonable contract. If we fail to concentrate on what is really important, the contract, we will likely find more of our wallets missing while we are admiring the proposed new jets.

Anyone recognize these guys?
Seabury APG | Profiles Main

Didn't UAL just write down a big downpayment on A320 options?

Bloomberg story

Cheers
George

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Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 622811)

Didn't UAL just write down a big downpayment on A320 options?

Bloomberg story

Cheers
George

That was from three years ago. Not sure what happened since then. I'm sure Airbus would discount that loss to UAL if given the opportunity, plus some.