You will see me there, And I have to say that was cute Bar.

I was referring to the Flow trainers on the third floor. You are correct that the CBT's are locked.

Bar it will just make you think the 320 is a great jet. Plastic and all! ;)

FWIW, I found my poster of the 88 today! ^#^$$^#(@@# airplane! ;)

Yeah, I'm digging my 88 crap out also ACL. Saw the "flows" again. Had to laugh out loud. What an ergonomic nightmare. Please don't make me leave my Boeing, please, please, please (sound of a grown man crying)....

Depending on how the bid goes down you might get to stay on that out in LAX. If not you can bid the DC-9! I think that the 9 will make all us love the 88. Just think, No alt hold and no fms/AT etc. NO WAY!

What, no FMS? No AT? I can't fly that thing!! That's barbaric!:eek:

No altitude capture is the big one.

All I'm saying is "bring on the C-series, quickly!"

That being said, the 9 prob isn't too preflight intensive. Throw a few switches, pull out your map and go. I'll happily fly that (or any plane for that matter) any day as long as my paycheck still says Delta.

Most guys that flew the 9 said "I spent 2,000 hours on that jet, 1,900 at climb power."

How do you DC9 pilots even know where the airplane is? Seriously?

Map? I just memorized the VORS and radials when I was in my 20's, has anything changed?

Do I have to get out my Whiz Wheel and spin the winds?

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You ladies need to man up ;)

We don't! We just wait for ATC to ask us where we are going, give them a VOR on the flight plan, then they just give us a heading! Eventally we find the airport! ;) :D

I still have that Map!

I would take a left seat in the 9 anywhere in the system. Now it would have to be ATL or MEM in the right! For now I am senior enough not to have to worry about that.
Heck the e-120 at least had alt hold.

How do you know what the winds are? I guess you could use the flight plan for an estimate.

Who cares, she falls under the size and range of, "Filler er up and go."

True Story:

ATL APP: Northwest 123 are you equipped to take direct ERLIN?
NWA123: Negative Sir, we're bankrupt

Best answer I've ever heard on the radio!

She doesn't have auto level off. You have to level off with the vertical speed wheel. She does have altitude hold though. It helps a little. The FO has to use the turn knob, as his/her heading bug will not command the AP. It's good for the brain.:D

I always tell em we'd love to do it for them but we're a slash antique!:p:D

That's how its done. Look at the flight plan for an estimated GS as that's your only way to calculate your 3:1 glide path. If all else fails, just go down. Better to be early then late.:D

(that's just the sort of post that would get me spanked by the moderators :) )

Heh. Spoken like a man in the furlough-proof side of the list, no doubt. :)

I agree though. Heck, I'm not too old to start over in another career anyway, and the whole "moving goalposts" thing with the airlines is getting really, really old.

I don't know what to say about you guys "dissin'" my mighty DC-9. It's a great airplane. You will get used to it. :D

There's a furlough-proof side of the list? Which side is it?

The management side? :rolleyes:

No kidding!

I told my wife tonight at dinner that my financial goals are now simply off the table. We'll be fine, nobody is going to starve. Life is going to be an adventure like it was in our 20's. We had a ton of fun then.

I assume that was either the Hamburger Helper dinner you cooked or the hotdogs you grilled? My wife and I had a ton of fun then too. Of course that was before mortgage payments, preschool tuition, and the rest....

As for all the DC-9 angst from the last few pages.... I just don't understand all the angst. I fly the -9, I commute on the -88. I'll take the -9 every time. It's kind of like dating (back in the days we were all single).

The -88 wows you right off the bat with all the jewelry and sophistication. After a few dates, you see through all the smoke and mirrors and realize that, despite the fact you thought you were getting a prom queen, you ended up with a broken-down, working-class single mom with a meth addiction.

As for the -9, there's no pretense. You know from day one that you're riding a middle-aged, broken-down *****. At first, it'll disgust you a little bit, but after a while you'll learn to love it. She's a good girl, and she appreciates a man who knows how to drive her.

You guys dreading the -9... I dare say you'll really appreciate flying it.... despite losing 10 pounds to sweat in the summer and being doused with glycol in the winter. If Smiling Bob flew the -9, he wouldn't need any mail-order help...We brew testosterone here... End of the day, it's an airplane, and a very enjoyable one to fly under mainline wages and workrules.

Enjoy it while it lasts. It'll be negotiated away for a few bucks and the "greater financial health of the company" before you know it.

No kidding...then, it'll be replaced by E-170/190s, right? From the regional/code-sharing partner of your choice.

That makes me sick!:mad:

+1 ! :D

Don't tell, don't yell, and grateful as hell......

It will be traded for no hats and another choice of Intl crew meal entree. Remembers all you guys *****ing about Scope are not looking at the bigger picture.......

Nothing was traded for the no hats...it couldn't be enforced. Things get traded when you hear the words..."long term this will be better for you"

To some people, 'Scope' is only a mouthwash...

OUCH. That was painful...but true.

Carl

Bar,

The VOR's have names, so when you dial in the freguency (yes, you physically have to do it) the DME will tell you how far away you are from the VOR. Try it on the 767/757. Push that "Auto" button to "Man" and work it baby!!! :D

That is OK we have to do that on the 88 too. If we do not the FMS will not know where it is!

You know I'm just giving you DC-9 bashers a hard time, that's all.

If you like to fly, you will love the DC-9. You have to make the airplane go when you want it to go.

If you like to be flown around, you will hate the DC-9. The only thing "Auto" on it are the spoilers. (The autopilot isn't even really "auto.")

For me, it's a fun airplane and I like the face the younger jumpseaters have when they ride up front for the first time. One word: AWE. (Or, is that fear?) :D

I bet. For me it would just remind me too much of my past.
That said, it will be on my MD bid sheet, or card as you call em! :p

See, that's the reason they give us DC9 SIC type flying the 88 in the first place! Mgmt knew most of us would fly one someday:)

Seriously, do you guys think they can get away with a short course from 88 to dc9? I highly doubt it... System's relatively similar, but the buttons, oh boy. The only thing we won't need new training sadly, is the FMS.

On FI, someone mentions opening a LAX dc9 base? ACL?? anyone? It brings tears of joy in my eye...

It knows where it's at. Not that I've ever done it, but I've heard of crews leaving the departure VOR's set the whole flight from JFK to FLL and it did fine.:)

Me too, but when I flew it, it was kind of fun to try and remember the frequencies. Dork I know:rolleyes:

I have heard that rumor.