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AAflyer 06-24-2009 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 634406)
Well, that's exactly how Alaska got into ORD, BOS and DFW. AA pulled back and we took over. The codeshare allowed you to continue to market our flights as AA flights.

AA pulled back ,and didn't need to. It is just another form of outsourcing, instead of RJs it is your airline. I have no ilk toward your pilot group.

By they way, how would you feel if the roles were reversed, and we started picking up your flying. Woopie doo!!!!!! We can market with you as an AA flight. I am watching the demise of Midwest, but hey at least they can market themselves with Republic.

If we do get the contract we deserve I am sure more flying will farmed out to a cheaper contractor, ie Alaska or someone else.


Like I said, I have no hard feelings toward the pilots, just more bull******** shell games from management.

AA

shfo 06-24-2009 12:01 PM

Can they even codeshare with AA on this route? SJC-AUS is an O&D route with little connection traffic. I always thought the point of a codeshare was to get more traffic into your hub to connect onto your flights. SJC isn't even a hub anymore, is it?

Eagle is also stopping SJC-SAN becasue they are not feeding AA with connection traffic.

Justin Case 06-24-2009 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Thrill (Post 633907)
There will NOT be another round of "early-out's"

Straight from a "guy" in a meeting with GB.

Didn't GB also say we would never get rid of hats?

Thrill 06-24-2009 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Justin Case (Post 634589)
Didn't GB also say we would never get rid of hats?

We have hats?

cesnacaptn 06-25-2009 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by shfo (Post 634521)
Can they even codeshare with AA on this route? SJC-AUS is an O&D route with little connection traffic. I always thought the point of a codeshare was to get more traffic into your hub to connect onto your flights. SJC isn't even a hub anymore, is it?

Eagle is also stopping SJC-SAN becasue they are not feeding AA with connection traffic.

American has their code on Alaska's SEA-MSP. I guess you don't need to have connection traffic to codeshare.

seaav8tor 06-25-2009 03:29 AM

AA,

Currently AS is reducing flights per day, reducing block hours, and reducing pilots. The pie is getting smaller for AA & AS. Not the same as the explosive, unabated growth in departures for several regional airlines. Not the same as moderate wage jobs being outsourced to minimum wage jobs.

vagabond 06-25-2009 08:06 AM

So what does something like this mean? Looks, sounds and smells like increasing capacity, city pairs and therefore labor? Or does it mean those not furloughed will have to do the extra work?

Fishfreighter 06-25-2009 10:02 AM

All I can tell you, Vag, is that they're talking another 60-80 pilot furloughs in the fall. And all the F/As they brought back for summer are going back on furlough this fall as well.

Homa 06-25-2009 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by vagabond (Post 634997)
So what does something like this mean? Looks, sounds and smells like increasing capacity, city pairs and therefore labor? Or does it mean those not furloughed will have to do the extra work?

That's just a case of redeployment of airplanes.
There are four -700s that the company would like to get rid of, but nobody
is buying. So, they might as well utilize one on the BLI-LAS route on top of
trying to combat Allegiant.

Rumor has it that we may be adding one more daily flight between SEA and
AUS. Plus, they have been looking at flying to the Hawaiian islands from the
LA basin.

There are some other opportunities that they are looking into, but it's all
rumor & conjecture which I don't care to comment on.


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