US Airways and American to Merge?
06-29-2009, 08:06 AM
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06-29-2009, 08:21 AM
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Sounds more like Parker is just publicly throwing out wishful thinking. My guess is he wants a way out of his last merger mess and perhaps he thinks AMR is stupid enough to bail him out.
Why would AMR want to inherit this nightmare ?
My guess is they'd be better off watching it eventually collapse as an airline hopelessly mired in division and since he cant turn it into one true airline, he thinks AMR can do it for him while giving him a fistful of cash and the joy of running away as fast as possible.
Why would AMR want to inherit this nightmare ?
My guess is they'd be better off watching it eventually collapse as an airline hopelessly mired in division and since he cant turn it into one true airline, he thinks AMR can do it for him while giving him a fistful of cash and the joy of running away as fast as possible.
06-29-2009, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Sounds more like Parker is just publicly throwing out wishful thinking. My guess is he wants a way out of his last merger mess and perhaps he thinks AMR is stupid enough to bail him out.
Why would AMR want to inherit this nightmare ?
My guess is they'd be better off watching it eventually collapse as an airline hopelessly mired in division and since he cant turn it into one true airline, he thinks AMR can do it for him while giving him a fistful of cash and the joy of running away as fast as possible.
Why would AMR want to inherit this nightmare ?
My guess is they'd be better off watching it eventually collapse as an airline hopelessly mired in division and since he cant turn it into one true airline, he thinks AMR can do it for him while giving him a fistful of cash and the joy of running away as fast as possible.
06-29-2009, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
AMR is cash strapped at the moment. This wouldn't be a buyout but an actual merger. Now that the USAPA debacle appears to be heading for closure it might make a merging easier. Just speculation of course. The bases would compliment each other.
I would think the APA and every other union on property at AA would be vehimently against it. When credible sources actually have AMR meeting with Parker's team, then I'll give this more weight, but just because Parker throws this out there doesn't give it any credibility. I see nowhere in the article does he allude to any possibility of talks with AA, but he's just expressing his long held desires........again, I think more now then ever, he wants someone to bail him out of this airline.
06-29-2009, 08:35 AM
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APA and USAPA,..... I see it starting this way, a guy in Charlotte picks up a stapler, while in Fort Worth, another guy has picked up a stapler. Both guys belong to abused groups who have had enough of the world trying to stuff them in the dumpster one more time. Common sense, integrity, and legal precedent are just minor roadblocks to their goal of total domination over one another, and the now forgotten band of aviators in Phoenix who once flew in bluer skies.
Meanwhile, all of the other employees (lesser species) are looking for new careers.
Meanwhile, all of the other employees (lesser species) are looking for new careers.
06-29-2009, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
AMR is cash strapped at the moment.
Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
This wouldn't be a buyout but an actual merger.
It sure would be interesting to see which regional contracts survive AMR.
AMR's history with EVERY airline they have bought (they have NEVER merged) was to systematically dismantle everything about the bought airline. They did it with Reno, TWA, all the several Eagles, Command, Bizex and others.... and never once did they even ever consider the word, merger. It isn't in the Dallas Texas vocabulary.
06-29-2009, 09:06 AM
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Abso-f'ing-lutely no way. USAir + AA route maps would fit together well, but that is where the fun stops. Totally different fleets, 2 of the most ****ed off pilot groups in the industry, USAir financials would drag AMR even further (AMR is at about $3b cash I believe), remember how the TWA merger went? I doubt AA wants another. Doug Parker has been desperate to find a dance partner for a long time, and he won't find any love from AA.
06-29-2009, 09:11 AM
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Desperation at work.
I wouldn't discount American making an acquisition, but I doubt they do it in a way that makes Parker happy. I think the more significant question for AMR would be whether they can get access to United's Pacific routes. Which in turns hinges on whether CAL and UAL get together on acceptable terms before UAL becomes the object of liquidation.
So maybe, if UAL and CAL emerge (along with DAL) as powerful competitors, then AMR will need to do something. That something, however, may be to make smaller acquistions, such as ALK, and create better trans-Pacific hubs in ALX and SEA. That makes far more sense than "getting" PHX, or CLT, or PHL, none of which seems to fit their needs.
In fact, there is probably more value to AMR's operations in MIA, JFK, and LAX to let the third time be the charm for UsAirways. If Doug really wants to contribute to consolidation, then he knows what to do...
I wouldn't discount American making an acquisition, but I doubt they do it in a way that makes Parker happy. I think the more significant question for AMR would be whether they can get access to United's Pacific routes. Which in turns hinges on whether CAL and UAL get together on acceptable terms before UAL becomes the object of liquidation.
So maybe, if UAL and CAL emerge (along with DAL) as powerful competitors, then AMR will need to do something. That something, however, may be to make smaller acquistions, such as ALK, and create better trans-Pacific hubs in ALX and SEA. That makes far more sense than "getting" PHX, or CLT, or PHL, none of which seems to fit their needs.
In fact, there is probably more value to AMR's operations in MIA, JFK, and LAX to let the third time be the charm for UsAirways. If Doug really wants to contribute to consolidation, then he knows what to do...
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