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Old 06-29-2009 | 02:59 PM
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Hey AirTran guys,
Can I ask why AirTran pilots chose ALPA over teamsters or other unions?
I would think ALPA is a much better choice, in my oninion. But I would like to hear other opinions on why this was pefered and relay this information to my fellow coworks. Thanks
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Old 06-29-2009 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 1900Driver
Hey AirTran guys,
Can I ask why AirTran pilots chose ALPA over teamsters or other unions?
They wanted to park their 717's and give the flying to RAH. ALPA is down with SCOPE!!!
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Old 06-29-2009 | 06:13 PM
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Old 06-29-2009 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 1900Driver
Hey AirTran guys,
Can I ask why AirTran pilots chose ALPA over teamsters or other unions?
I would think ALPA is a much better choice, in my oninion. But I would like to hear other opinions on why this was pefered and relay this information to my fellow coworks. Thanks
If ALPA doesn't work out you can still, with a majority vote, get rid of them. Unlike IBT where they'll come to your house and break your legs of merely uttering the words.
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Old 06-29-2009 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
If ALPA doesn't work out you can still, with a majority vote, get rid of them. Unlike IBT where they'll come to your house and break your legs of merely uttering the words.
They don't break legs this is modern day we're talking about.... They fine you into oblivion.
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Old 06-30-2009 | 10:52 AM
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ATA voted out IBT in 1999 and switched to ALPA in one fell swoop. Made fantastic strides in the '02 contract. Didn't work out too well did it?
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Old 06-30-2009 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
If ALPA doesn't work out you can still, with a majority vote, get rid of them. Unlike IBT where they'll come to your house and break your legs of merely uttering the words.

I think it is a 60% or 2/3 vote to decertify...easy to get in, hard to get out.
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Old 06-30-2009 | 03:10 PM
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any airtran guys with better answers??
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Old 06-30-2009 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HalinTexas
ATA voted out IBT in 1999 and switched to ALPA in one fell swoop. Made fantastic strides in the '02 contract. Didn't work out too well did it?
Yep, that was ALPA's fault.
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Old 06-30-2009 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I think it is a 60% or 2/3 vote to decertify...easy to get in, hard to get out.
Incorrect. You can start a decert drive with 35% of the pilot group signing cards and then a simple majority can vote to decertify.

AirTran pilots favored ALPA in my opinion because the IBT simply doesn't specialize in representing pilots and our independent union was a mess. I think you'll find that most pilots have been very happy with the decision so far. It's a 10 fold improvement after just the first couple of months.
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