"Only a Pilot would b----h after a pay raise"

Wow. Grow a spine man. This is a MAJOR airline, I know all the 500hour SJS Regional FO's would love to sell their soul to fly an Airbus or EMB. But this the real world, we are a real pilot group of a MAJOR US airline and deserve to be compensated as such.

I hope you're a JB pilot because if I just spent the time typing this out and you're some SJS 400 hour regional wonder I'm gonna be upset.

Pay raise? BFD. Some CA's took a PAYCUT. Just because we stood on the shoulders of pilots with a real union, real benefits, and a real CBA to get industry average pay I'm not gonna go jumping around like I've been injected with SJS. If we had any teeth we would be looking at industry leading pay AND benefits, until then I'm not all that excited.

I don't know about you but I work to be compensated fairly.

Below average pay, below average insurance, below average work rules? Not fair.

I know it's cool to tell random people at the grocery store you're an "airline pilot" but that doesn't pay the bills, keep my kids healthy, or guarantee my employment. We all worked hard to even sit in the seat of one of these airplanes, and it's time we're compensated as the company has promised and per our PEA's (see section 3a).

What about our subpar medical insurance? LoL, LTD, OJI? Scope? (not the mouthwash) Crap work rules and an "everyone is equal" culture? Erosion of captains authority? Late bid results? Scheduling to FAR's? Hotel/no-hotel games with CS?, bids full of red-eyes?, ex MGT people with no seniority getting preferential treatment on seat and A/C assignment...


As for the BluePilots.com thing, you gotta' be high to not think the company didn't have a hand in that website. Ever hear about the guys who were talking about drug testing in a thread and were pulled for a test on the next paring? Or how the hired gun union busters were granted access to a "pilot only" website to drop off non-union propaganda pretending to be JB aviators? Or how about right when the 3A talks heated up and right before the deadline to sign and fax in your retainer to the lawyers then the website went "offline" for a few weeks, or when that Corporate Comm. chick would pop in and try to slew the propaganda from forest hills... This is real. No choppers, or heard it through bla,bla,bla... this happens.

Was all that magic? Or did the company have a hand in it?

So yea, maybe I was dropped on my head as a kid. But my Dad always told me to work for what I'm worth, not selling myself or my profession short. And without union representation JB Pilots will continue to stand on the backs of other hard working pilot groups just to POSSIBLY have a shot at industry average compensation. We need to unify and set a new standard, because we owe it to every other US pilot group.


So yea, basically a little bump in pay (for some) is still far away from an AVERAGE compensation PACKAGE and work rules, and most certainly not something for me to be excited about.

sounds like the guy who started the thread needs to talk with buff mike.

That statement, ironically so simple, is one of the funniest things that I have seen written here.

Throw Buff Mike a few scraps and he proudly boasts from the roof tops. Being as green as he is, he remains unaware of what catching up still needs to be done.

He's like the kid who's been running around in an old Honda Civic while his peers have been driving Bimmers. After years near the bottom, he's been promised shiny rims, seat covers, and a big muffler and he can't stop shouting about it.

What's next, furry dice?

JJ

There already is a process in place to handle these issues. If you dont like it then quit and go find a job. Why people insist on complaining like a bunch of little girls is beyond me. Good luck finding a job in this economy and let us know how much better it is at your new place of employment.

And what do you think we are gonna talk about? How to start threads and rummors with no fact and all BS behind them. :rolleyes:

I did the Math on the 320CA pay, and even if you only work 77 hours with no premium, you still got at least a 7% raise or more. So how did they take pay cuts?

And why people insist on sitting back and letting other pilot groups make the strides for the entire industry is beyond me.

Here is the email I received that disproves the rumors on this subject. Get your facts straight before posting.

Once again a rumor campaign with fictitious information has started, this time regarding your upcoming “retro” check in the October 20 paycheck.

Here are the facts:

Basic Information Regarding the Retroactive Payment:

• The retroactive payment will be included in your Oct 20th paycheck

• Retroactive pay will be subject to the supplemental rate for federal tax withholding of 25%, per IRS regulations. This rate may be more or less than your usual withholding rate, depending on your income level.

• 401 (k) contributions will be taken from eligible retroactive pay as they would in a standard pay cycle. IRS limits for maximum eligible compensation and deferrals still apply.

• The 401(k) match is made dollar for dollar up to 5% on all retroactive pay for taxable wages.

• Profit sharing is based on eligible pay at 12/31 of each year. Retroactive pay will be included in eligible pay for the 2009 year.

• Retroactive pay will be considered eligible pay for determining disability payments.


In addition Flight Ops, People and Payroll are working internally for a comprehensive communication to be distributed on October 9th. There will be some good stuff to share - ie, a sample pay stub, explanations of varying "eligible incomes," for 401(k) and disability, and an explanation of the federal supplemental withholding rules, etc.

Thanks to those of you that brought to the attention of the CBC and PVC via email. We always encourage you to contact us and/or your Base Chief when you want accurate information.

As for you crf, as I said earlier just pack your stuff and go find another company or business to get into. Nobody will be stopping you and let us know how green the grass is on the other side.

Mike,

I dont know how you deal with the whiners on this blog. As long as you stick to facts there is not much they can debate.