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Originally Posted by zoooropa (Post 689692)

The scope battle(s) have been fought, and labor lost. When RAH prevailed in the YX codeshare grievance, the floodgates were officially opened. Domestic narrow-body flying is doomed and the elusive "legacy" pilot position is going to become even more sacred.

My, we're a little on the negative side today, aren't we? I guess we all better just give up now, since it'll be just too hard to fix.

Or do we fight like hell, against insurmountable odds, to fix what is wrong? Even if we ultimately fail, at least we tried.

After all, did we as a nation just give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 689702)

Uh the germans?????

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Originally Posted by syd111 (Post 689705)

Uh the germans?????

Where is the facepalm emoticon when you need it.

YouTube - Animal House: Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor

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Originally Posted by syd111 (Post 689705)

Uh the germans?????

Forget it, he's rolling.

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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 689711)

Where is the facepalm emoticon when you need it.

YouTube - Animal House: Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor

Went right by me and one of my favorite movies too.

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Originally Posted by zoooropa (Post 689692)

<P>The scope battle(s) have been fought, and labor lost. When RAH prevailed in the YX codeshare grievance, the floodgates were officially opened. Domestic narrow-body flying is doomed and the elusive "legacy" pilot position is going to become even more sacred.

I agree with this statement. The regionals will eventually be ALL narrow body flying. Captains will make max out at $85-100k/year with 12-13 days off per month while first officers will always make poverty wages. Our salaries will continue to have less buying power as inflation rises faster than our wages. There is no way to preserve scope other than an illegal massive walk-out (it will never happen). Midwest was a successful experiment for management. There is a reason US Airways is getting rid of its 190's. US Airways is going to try again at outsourcing 100 seat flying.

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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 689702)

Nice analogy.:rolleyes: Comparing beating down Hitler and the Axis with getting scope back. . . Feeling a little like Walter Mitty today?

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Originally Posted by shiznitobam (Post 689724)

Forget it, he's rolling.

Great line from a great movie. Thanks for the laugh.

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Originally Posted by pilot124 (Post 689674)

Just like Midwest, poor mgmt, angry bitter crews, poor ticket sales, etc. Then of course, UA releasing scope for their own greedy self preservation has lead us to where we are today. But, lets just blame RAH it's easier. Rat, even my 7 & 8 year olds accept more responsiblity then you. On occasion, I do find them blaming everyone else instead of placing the blame where it belongs, but they are only 7 & 8. What's your excuse for acting like a child? You need help.

Another Republic Pilot stating his wisdom.

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 689730)

Well then we might as well give each and every company our section 1 and throw it in to the shredder. No sense in fighting it.

:eek:

I will fight all the way. There is no reason for it except corporate greed. It is time to fix this industry. Step one is to get paid what we are worth, along with fixing scope. Step two which will happen with step one is to charge a realistic price for a ticket.

Yes, this means that some will lose their jobs, but the industry needs to be fixed. Airline execs are just doing this so they can push of the need to fix their horrible balance sheets a few more years. We are turning in to shell corporations that are designed to make no money.