UAL Next Midwest
 

Hate to say it but looking at Sep's Load numbers, mainline flying is down about 6% while "regional affiliates" are UP over 15%. UAL has over 1000 pilots on furlough, are parking mainline aircraft and outsourcing the flying to the regionals. Is being bought by Republic the final dagger? What can they do to stop the craziness? They tried a sickout (kinda) and unsuccessfully tried to remove the incompetent CEO.

REVENUE PASSENGER MILES ('000)*
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September September
2009 2008 Change
--------- --------- ------
North America 4,484,005 4,772,889 -6.1%

Pacific 1,811,378 1,717,447 5.5%
Atlantic 1,606,269 1,667,518 -3.7%
Latin America 191,086 209,723 -8.9%
------- ------- -----
Total International 3,608,733 3,594,688 0.4%

Total Mainline 8,092,737 8,367,577 -3.3%

Regional Affiliates 1,155,076 985,745 17.2%

Total Consolidated 9,247,813 9,353,322 -1.1%


AVAILABLE SEAT MILES ('000)*
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North America 5,445,645 5,918,285 -8.0%

Pacific 2,291,510 2,298,651 -0.3%
Atlantic 1,868,738 1,981,231 -5.7%
Latin America 255,534 306,033 -16.5%
------- ------- ------
Total International 4,415,782 4,585,915 -3.7%

Total Mainline 9,861,426 10,504,200 -6.1%

Regional Affiliates 1,530,288 1,321,787 15.8%

Total Consolidated 11,391,714 11,825,987 -3.7%


LOAD FACTOR*
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North America 82.3% 80.6% 1.7 pts

Pacific 79.0% 74.7% 4.3 pts
Atlantic 86.0% 84.2% 1.8 pts
Latin America 74.8% 68.5% 6.3 pts
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Total International 81.7% 78.4% 3.3 pts

Total Mainline 82.1% 79.7% 2.4 pts

Regional Affiliates 75.5% 74.6% 0.9 pts

Total Consolidated 81.2% 79.1% 2.1 pts


REVENUE PASSENGERS BOARDED ('000)*
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Mainline 4,425 4,852 -8.8%
Regional Affiliates 2,132 1,900 12.2%
----- ----- -----
Total Consolidated 6,557 6,752 -2.9%

CARGO TON MILES ('000)*
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Freight 131,174 134,226 -2.3%
Mail 14,672 22,904 -35.9%
------ ------ ------
Total Mainline 145,846 157,130 -7.2%

*Includes Scheduled and Charter Operations


REVENUE PASSENGER MILES ('000)*
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QTD Sept. QTD Sept.
2009 2008 Change
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North America 15,762,328 17,142,291 -8.1%

Pacific 5,848,739 5,969,700 -2.0%
Atlantic 5,268,866 5,203,603 1.3%
Latin America 731,301 858,282 -14.8%
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Total International 11,848,906 12,031,585 -1.5%

Total Mainline 27,611,234 29,173,876 -5.4%

Regional Affiliates 3,817,125 3,204,605 19.1%

Total Consolidated 31,428,359 32,378,481 -2.9%


AVAILABLE SEAT MILES ('000)*
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North America 18,204,910 20,265,115 -10.2%

Pacific 7,089,080 7,698,358 -7.9%
Atlantic 6,004,125 6,021,437 -0.3%
Latin America 895,159 1,096,829 -18.4%
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Total International 13,988,364 14,816,624 -5.6%

Total Mainline 32,193,273 35,081,739 -8.2%

Regional Affiliates 4,840,100 4,198,173 15.3%

Total Consolidated 37,033,374 39,279,912 -5.7%


LOAD FACTOR*
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North America 86.6% 84.6% 2.0 pts

Pacific 82.5% 77.5% 5.0 pts
Atlantic 87.8% 86.4% 1.4 pts
Latin America 81.7% 78.3% 3.4 pts
----- -----
Total International 84.7% 81.2% 3.5 pts

Total Mainline 85.8% 83.2% 2.6 pts

Regional Affiliates 78.9% 76.3% 2.6 pts

Total Consolidated 84.9% 82.4% 2.5 pts


REVENUE PASSENGERS BOARDED ('000)*
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Mainline 15,179 16,758 -9.4%
Regional Affiliates 6,898 6,091 13.2%
----- ----- -----
Total Consolidated 22,077 22,849 -3.4%

CARGO TON MILES ('000)*
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Freight 364,316 408,547 -10.8%
Mail 44,196 68,719 -35.7%
------ ------ ------
Total Mainline 408,512 477,266 -14.4%

*Includes Scheduled and Charter Operations


REVENUE PASSENGER MILES ('000)*
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YTD Sept. YTD Sept.
2009 2008 Change
--------- --------- ------
North America 44,410,775 49,763,285 -10.8%

Pacific 16,109,809 18,625,754 -13.5%
Atlantic 13,627,645 14,180,123 -3.9%
Latin America 2,361,970 2,974,540 -20.6%
--------- --------- ------
Total International 32,099,424 35,780,417 -10.3%

Total Mainline 76,510,199 85,543,702 -10.6%

Regional Affiliates 10,227,910 9,150,717 11.8%

Total Consolidated 86,738,109 94,694,419 -8.4%


AVAILABLE SEAT MILES ('000)*
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North America 52,833,852 60,068,524 -12.0%

Pacific 20,921,297 23,862,831 -12.3%
Atlantic 16,892,117 17,323,350 -2.5%
Latin America 3,098,848 3,748,904 -17.3%
--------- --------- ------
Total International 40,912,262 44,935,085 -9.0%

Total Mainline 93,746,116 105,003,609 -10.7%

Regional Affiliates 13,339,408 12,204,368 9.3%

Total Consolidated 107,085,524 117,207,977 -8.6%


LOAD FACTOR*
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North America 84.1% 82.8% 1.3 pts

Pacific 77.0% 78.1% -1.1 pts
Atlantic 80.7% 81.9% -1.2 pts
Latin America 76.2% 79.3% -3.1 pts
----- -----
Total International 78.5% 79.6% -1.1 pts

Total Mainline 81.6% 81.5% 0.1 pts

Regional Affiliates 76.7% 75.0% 1.7 pts

Total Consolidated 81.0% 80.8% 0.2 pts


REVENUE PASSENGERS BOARDED ('000)*
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Mainline 42,933 49,002 -12.4%
Regional Affiliates 18,880 17,538 7.7%
------ ------ ----
Total Consolidated 61,813 66,540 -7.1%

CARGO TON MILES ('000)*
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Freight 982,993 1,294,166 -24.0%
Mail 145,268 203,566 -28.6%
------- ------- ------
Total Mainline 1,128,261 1,497,732 -24.7%

Lock down some scope maybe? Take back the 70 seat flying? Limit regional a/c numbers? Grow some?

All great ideas to me.

Well the RLA is really shackeling all of us, it's the biggest bunch of BS. :mad:

And parking 100 737's probably would not decrease the numbers would it.....UAL is not even close to Midwest.

No, but you're getting there. We started parking our MD-80's and were being told the reason for doing so was that they were due for heavy checks and the company didn't want to put the money into them. The truth was that they had been scheming all along to replace us all. Sounds like it is headed that way at United. It's all ready started at Delta and American is not far behind.

Or perhaps UAL is being 'right sized' to merge with CAL, who has a considerable amount of.........drumroll..........737's!!!!!

Could be. At any rate, all majors need to re-write their scope to make sure it is fail safe against the likes of sleazy carriers like Republic.

Well lets put it this way, if UAUA, AMR, DAL or CAL cave one iota on scope the rest will follow. That is unless we get people that are willing to say no!

It all starts with one.

The nice thing today is most pilots see this career as raped and pilliaged and are willing to fight harder then in years past. Basically if there is one more cut or relaxation of scope, most will feel their job is gone and will move on. That give many the extra motivation they need to fight harder than in years past. The mentality has changed.

Fact is that this industry is fighting really hard for lower labor costs. It is trending that way. We can fight that and make the executives come up with a business plan that charges for the services provided, or we can continue to prove to them that, YES the cheaper tickets can keep coming out of the employees bank accounts. The choice is yours. Do not fool yourself in to anything else.

Just like Midwest, poor mgmt, angry bitter crews, poor ticket sales, etc. Then of course, UA releasing scope for their own greedy self preservation has lead us to where we are today. But, lets just blame RAH it's easier. Rat, even my 7 & 8 year olds accept more responsiblity then you. On occasion, I do find them blaming everyone else instead of placing the blame where it belongs, but they are only 7 & 8. What's your excuse for acting like a child? You need help.

Scope is meaningless
 

<P>The scope battle(s) have been fought, and labor lost. </P>
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<P>When RAH prevailed in the YX codeshare grievance, the floodgates were officially opened. </P>
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<P>Domestic narrow-body flying is doomed and the elusive "legacy" pilot position is going to become even more sacred. </P>
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