My was not related to additives. But thanks for the reminder:rolleyes:.

I appreciate your comment, and agree. But the approach along with speeds and performance are briefed, usually before TOD. We may adjust the bug speed as appropriate to reported wind conditions prior to commencing the approach. However, dynamics, due to turbulence, unexpected wind shifts may require a bit of extra speed, which should be brought to the NFP attention.

However speed creep of a couple of knots either way is just not worth chasing and may cause one to destabilize their approach.

We operate the -800 into an airport that has about 5,900' of ALD with 189 paxs and R/T fuel to boot.

Wind check please.

I absolutely agree with everything you say. The proper approach and landing speeds can be dynamic and changing depending on the conditions encountered. We are on the same page!:D

Denny

It should be check the wind from behind:D. Could not resist.

The trusty NG, or other Boeing products that I have flown do not have the donut. The speed tape in turbulent conditions can be quite an effort to read. As you know the information presented on the PFD goes through alot of information processing before you see it. Starting with Bernoullies, converted to googoo-fonics in the ADIRU then off to the symbol generator and voila the PFD. The standby ASI is a lot less jumpy.

You're welcome.
I thought you were inferring that perhaps x-wind/t-wind limits were the only good reason for a windcheck. If so, I was correcting that inference.

Is this really keeping you up at night? Sometimes I feel like asking for a wind check, sometimes I don't. Delta seems pretty much just like every other carrier out there. Mix of guys who do ask and don't ask.... I think you should get off the idea that it clogs up the radios, that's pretty silly. Too much other stuff to worry about to get all wrapped around private pilot issues like this.

Just a point of order, in Europe, when cleared for takeoff or landing winds are given by the tower controller.

Very good point CAVOK. I am an active CFI. I purposely train at uncontrolled airports without wx information. When asked about wind conditions, I respond who gives a rat's a$$... just land the plane and we'll discuss it on the ground.

After the plane is on the ground taxying in to the FBO I enjoy watching the smirk on the student's face. I ask him, well what about the wind? They say... "We don't need no stinken wind reports!"

That is what I like to transcend to my students when conducting line training on the NG. Who give a rat’s a$$... just fly and land the damn jet, and we’ll talk about it on the ground. You know what??? I get the same smart a$$ smirk form the newbie in the right seat. It's a beautiful thing.