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Originally Posted by captjns
(Post 701297)
Oh I got one the other day. Some Bozo queeried me... "You don't plan on overflying our destination today??? Never saw an F-16 up close before." Argghhhh!!!!!
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Unfortunately I was forced back into fax service after our 727 cargo company had its conract terminated in 2005.
Damn... I miss cago... no passengers and no cabin crew:(. Cargo Kaninus all the way;). |
Sorry guys but until the investigation is complete this thread is useless. All the speculation makes you and the profession look bad. Stop paying attention to the tabloids and give the crew a little breathing room while the facts are played out. To do otherwise is foolish.
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Originally Posted by Miss Blue
(Post 701285)
This has been my question all along.... Is it facts from the media or facts from the NTSB we are disputing? Seriously, if the time frame comes from the media then we are arguing about something that probably isn't accurate. If the didn't realize the radios hadn't been switched over do to heated conversation until they hit MSP then it's logical that they would be forced to continue on do to security reasons.
My problem with this whole story is that the pieces just don't add up, and frankly, when did we all start believing in the media for accuracy? BINGO . . . The NTSB has already effectively shut down the "sleeping" theory, and the "heated discussion" theory. Oddly enough, I don't see non-stop top of the hour TV talking head updates on this for some strange reason. Nor do I see a bunch of APC posters who've been slamming the NWA guys for "sleeping" coming on and eating crow yet. |
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Originally Posted by Bigflya
(Post 701290)
Wall Street Journal now reporting that pilots were using laptops. Probably posting on these very message boards. Either way, to not update your psoition and lose all Sit Awareness in over an hour is really inexcusable. Makes us ALL look bad. I had to smile politely at more than one pax this weekend when they cracked a "thanks for staying awake" joke as the disembarked.
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So who cares what happened in the cockpit? Someone list a reason why in the world these two guys should not be fired (permanently)? We've all made mistakes (I certainly have) in the cockpit and luckily I didn't crash or get violated but "it could happen to anyone" is not a legitimate excuse. This sort of lack of situational awareness is completely unprofessional and flies in the face of the qualities REQUIRED of commercial pilots - no excuse they could come up with in line with their statements of record would justify not firing them. They have no business flying commercial aircraft.
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what he said.
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Originally Posted by deltabound
(Post 701334)
BINGO . . .
The NTSB has already effectively shut down the "sleeping" theory, and the "heated discussion" theory. Oddly enough, I don't see non-stop top of the hour TV talking head updates on this for some strange reason. Nor do I see a bunch of APC posters who've been slamming the NWA guys for "sleeping" coming on and eating crow yet. |
Originally Posted by Tuck
(Post 701420)
So who cares what happened in the cockpit? Someone list a reason why in the world these two guys should not be fired (permanently)? We've all made mistakes (I certainly have) in the cockpit and luckily I didn't crash or get violated but "it could happen to anyone" is not a legitimate excuse. This sort of lack of situational awareness is completely unprofessional and flies in the face of the qualities REQUIRED of commercial pilots - no excuse they could come up with in line with their statements of record would justify not firing them. They have no business flying commercial aircraft.
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