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Old 11-03-2009, 02:30 PM
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Ok thanks, that's what I though it was. It just cracks me up that someone didn't do a little research and let Mr CEO know about this.
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Ok thanks, that's what I though it was. It just cracks me up that someone didn't do a little research and let Mr CEO know about this.
They did... it was talked about a lot when the scheme came out.
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Ok thanks, that's what I though it was. It just cracks me up that someone didn't do a little research and let Mr CEO know about this.

I agree, I really wish they would have informed him about this one also The National Wrestling Alliance - History, Tradition, Respect




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I think the problem is, that with the proliferation of WiFi on aircraft it would be in everyone's best interest to let pilots use laptops to check current radar.

It would be an invaluable asset, IMO, to be able to get a current radar picture. It would help with course diversions, planning a departure route around storms before takeoff, and getting an up to date idea of what your destination looks like before you get close enough to use your aircraft radar.

It would be just another tool that would increase safety for everyone, and these Delta yahoos and band wagon jumping lawmakers are ruining it for everyone.
Sorry, but I do not think you know what you are talking about. You do not use radar from the internet for course deviation. NEXRAD could be up to 10 minutes old. That how some people in general aviation get them self killed.
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Sorry, but I do not think you know what you are talking about. You do not use radar from the internet for course deviation. NEXRAD could be up to 10 minutes old. That how some people in general aviation get them self killed.

Sure would save a bunch of money for strategic planning on transcons...
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Sorry, but I do not think you know what you are talking about. You do not use radar from the internet for course deviation. NEXRAD could be up to 10 minutes old. That how some people in general aviation get them self killed.
The hell you don't. You use every available resource for every flight. That means the radar that you're looking at on your display as well as radar from your computer.

As far as the time lapse. You would know what time the radar was updated, it's timestamped. It would be one more tool in your bag. When faced with a decision to deviate around an area of weather, left or right, wouldn't it be nice to better know what lies ahead for the next few hundred miles beyond that?

I'm sure I can't be the only one who has ever decided to deviate one way, only to realize that you got yourself stuck behind a line that will take you even more off course.

Edit: In addition...when you call dispatch to "get an idea on the weather" what do you think they're looking at?
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I'll be using "Captain's discretion" on this.

And we have ABSOLUTELY NO USE for GA styled Nexrad "Weather" nonsense on an airliners.
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The hell you don't. You use every available resource for every flight. That means the radar that you're looking at on your display as well as radar from your computer.

As far as the time lapse. You would know what time the radar was updated, it's timestamped. It would be one more tool in your bag. When faced with a decision to deviate around an area of weather, left or right, wouldn't it be nice to better know what lies ahead for the next few hundred miles beyond that?

I'm sure I can't be the only one who has ever decided to deviate one way, only to realize that you got yourself stuck behind a line that will take you even more off course.
You made my point; you need some education on the use internet radar images. It’s an excellent tool for strategic planning. But it’s not to be used to deviate around cells unless you want to get yourself in trouble. How can you use an image that could be 10 minutes old to deviate around a cell?

Now going back to the topic of this thread. Keep congress away from the cockpit.

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The hell you don't. You use every available resource for every flight. That means the radar that you're looking at on your display as well as radar from your computer.

As far as the time lapse. You would know what time the radar was updated, it's timestamped. It would be one more tool in your bag. When faced with a decision to deviate around an area of weather, left or right, wouldn't it be nice to better know what lies ahead for the next few hundred miles beyond that?

I'm sure I can't be the only one who has ever decided to deviate one way, only to realize that you got yourself stuck behind a line that will take you even more off course.

Edit: In addition...when you call dispatch to "get an idea on the weather" what do you think they're looking at?
I can't believe I am reading such nonsense. NEXRAD could be depicting something well below your altitude, and as such, not a threat. This could cause you to fly elsewhere into an area that is much more of a threat.

Dispatch does not always look at NEXRAD, as they are talking to other aircraft ahead of you and the FAA (which routes are working, which ones are not).

I can't believe you are on a computer looking at timelapse NEXRAD, which is so generalized and doesn't have the fidelity that you need, when you have onboard radar.

Epic fail.
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Is it an option for us to not only consider a minimum pay but add minimum experience in our contracts in the future to join the "club"? Might be worth looking in to... just a thought though.

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