AA pilots will sign a concessionary contract
 

You heard it here first.

The readers digest condensed timeline:

Today - Spring 2010: nothing happens. Union infighting continues.

Spring: Management friendly pilots get voted in to power at APA.

Spring-Summer: Concessionaires whittle contractual demands down to 10 items and a 10% pay raise demand, citing the "fragile state" of the airline.

September : TA is reached. Final product is basically a reshuffling of our current bankruptcy style contract, a 5% raise, PBS, and "loosening of scope language" allowing 70-90 seat E-jets to Eagle. Vote passes by 69%.

Day after TA passes: AMR sends WARN letters to 2000 pilots.

30 days after WARN letters are sent out: Massive displacement announcement.

60 days after WARN letters sent out: AMR furloughs the first 200 pilots of the 2000 that will hit the street.

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The future has never looked brighter. :(

your point is?

No way dude. Stay strong.

Start off by skipping that voting in managent friendly pilots to power in APA part.

Wow...................what a flip !

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Phallus used to box my ears regularly regarding my comments of the widening future of the large RJ flown by regionals. The error was that I somehow advocated this as opposed to the more realistic truth being that I simply claim it as sad inevitability and as far as AMR anyway, the APA couldn't stop it. Previously according to him (just a few short months ago), the APA was the one entity that was going to show the others how to take back these airplanes and vaporize Eagle into a bad nightmare of the past.

Phallus...............what the heck happened ?

Seriously.

If scope can't be regained my mainline carriers this career will be pointless as a profession. Recovery of scope needs to be a priority in all new contracts if there is to be a future worth sticking around for.

Except the 170/190s will go to RAH, not Eagle. As much as our senior pilots want to balk at scope (not aimed at you, Eaglefly), the truth is that Eagle pilots need AA scope just as much as the MD80 and 737 FOs at AA do. Stay strong APA, keep scope, keep your pensions, get your pay back and keep the flying where it is.

Oh yes, it's true some would indeed likely be placed at the "other" carrier, but most of these would go to Eagle. The reason being is that these aircraft make money (or so AMR believes). AMR desires a whipsaw scenario where everyone but them loses and continually lives on their knees, so I'm realistic about a disturbing future for ALL pilots involved with AMR, not just AA pilots.

I just found it surprising that one of their biggest cheerleaders (and notorious Eagle pilot hater) has suddenly and drastically shifted his outlook from optomistic agression to hopeless dismay.

APA controls scope. If they can't get "All flying performed by APA pilots" They at least need to have "All flying performed by AMR owned carriers." At least this would end the whipsaw from 3rd parties. All revenue would be going to the same pot, and we wouldnt be subsidizing Reverend Bedford and the RAH conglomerate.

I don't like where all this BS is going, but I agree with you there.

One of the very few intelligent and objective posts I've seen on the issue.