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Bucking Bar 11-16-2009 03:12 PM

never mind.

captnmajic 11-16-2009 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Jetlinker (Post 712601)
I've noticed this smell quite a few times on the EMB-145. I've been told it comes from mold residue in the packs. Now I'm not so sure. It's a very pungent smell.

That's likely the easiest explanation to a problem that's not fully understood and can't be explained. Even mold residue in the packs can be very bad for your long-term health. Keep in mind that TCP's effects are believed to be cumulative. Moral of the story: DO NOT assume anything and take no chances. It's YOUR health and career that's on the line.

Boomer 11-16-2009 05:58 PM

Doctor Mackenzie Ross can test me anytime. :D

Bucking Bar 11-16-2009 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by captnmajic (Post 712761)
Moral of the story: DO NOT assume anything and take no chances. It's YOUR health and career that's on the line.

... and your suggestions on how you would do that?

cal73 11-16-2009 07:20 PM

Write up...
ACM/pack smells awful and causes health problems.


Signoff...
Ops check good.

Shoreguy 11-16-2009 08:21 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1555466/Chr...

Pretty serious stuff.....BA-146 seems to be the worst offender

shiftwork 11-17-2009 10:26 AM

.....and I thought running around with the pack flow on Lo in 319's with 145 pax and 321's with ECON FLOW and 218 pax's was bad!

iceman49 11-17-2009 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by shiftwork (Post 713087)
.....and I thought running around with the pack flow on Lo in 319's with 145 pax and 321's with ECON FLOW and 218 pax's was bad!

Thought Airbus only rec, if you were 70% or less of aircraft capacity.

EVpilot 11-17-2009 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by captnmajic (Post 712420)
I can certainly relate. Keep in mind your CO detector will likely not indicate a problem as the real issue is with TCP's. According to information I have, there is a detector that will warn of TCP's that has been available in Europe for several years now, but the European carriers are fighting having it installed on the flight deck as it will prove what many flight crews have been trying to warn managements of for years. Based on my experience, TCP's most often manifest themselves as a "dirty sock" smell. If you ever notice such a smell immediately go on 100% O2/smoke goggles and land as soon as possible. I hope this helps.


Here is a document affirming this. http://ashsd.afacwa.org/docs/HCPfull.pdf
Interesting reading. First Ive heard of this but Ive flown a lot of planes with the dirty sock smelling air.

captnmajic 11-17-2009 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by EVpilot (Post 713151)
Here is a document affirming this. http://ashsd.afacwa.org/docs/HCPfull.pdf
Interesting reading. First Ive heard of this but Ive flown a lot of planes with the dirty sock smelling air.

I am quite familiar with your link as I am one of the crew members referenced in table 3.


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