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yamahas3 11-20-2009 03:11 PM

I'd personally like to thank those two idiots flying that plane that overflew MSP for this.

Why can't you just say you were sleeping or something? Instead you say some stupid story about a laptop computer and ruin it, in many different ways, for the entire friggen industry. I've never seen pilots get so much attention and multiple bills being brought before congress for doing something so stupid that didn't result in a bunch of deaths. Thanks a million guys.

eaglefly 11-20-2009 03:54 PM

We're heading toward a gestapo state for airline pilots. Clueless congressinal idiots want to appoint themselves "backseat drivers" to monitor and discipline pilots for actions THEY consider "unprofessional". Even worse, they'll seek to use this against pilots in financial lawsuits to bankrupt them in accident/incidents.

Pretty soon, all the true experienced pilots will tell congress and the flying public to "JAM IT !!!" and quit. Let's how the industry does with inexperienced kids to pick up the slack.

When I retire (perhaps sooner rather than later), I intend to either drive virtually everywhere in the continental U.S. or fly my own airplane. The only time I'd fly commercial is International and I'll be using foreign carriers only.

Congressional idiots like this clown can stuff it.

JungleBus 11-20-2009 06:06 PM

In most other countries this would result in a strike. It's illegal here. I say we threaten it anyways, and carry through if Obama signs. Does he really want to be the person responsible for a massive nationwide airline strike that brings a struggling economy to its knees, all over CVRs? I think not. The threat should be enough...if ALPA has the balls to even threaten illegal action.

Piedmonster 11-20-2009 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 714820)
Senator Jim DiMint
202-224-6121
demint.senate.gov (web site)
The Legislative Assistant on this matter is Tom Jones

So not only is this guy an idiot, but he has an assistant (probably) named (after) Tom Jones...
The singer known for "what's New *****cat" and "Sex Bomb"

I wrote to DeMint earlier and suggested he lead the effort to enact a Professionalism bill in the both chambers of Congress before he would think to do so for private industry. I even cited a member of his party from his own state (Rep. Joe Wilson) need to "guidance" from such a bill before the public should see its effects. Much less his state's governor...

Shoreguy 11-20-2009 06:42 PM

OK, here's the deal.......I'll let you wire me if you let me wire you.

Deal?

Mason32 11-20-2009 06:51 PM

Can't somebody just dig out the minutes of the meetings when FDR and CVR were first being discussed so that we can get the quotes and promises that these would NEVER be used in the manner they are now proposing....

This is another prime example of why you give the Govt or the company ANYTHING. It's like creeping communism... all they need is a foot in the door for legit sounding reasons, and then they can expand things slowly over time... which is what we are seeing now. We need to dig up the orginal debates with them promising this woudl never happen, and then shove their own words down their throats.

KoruPilot 11-20-2009 07:16 PM

Shoreguy, exactly what I was thinking. . .

The business of the government is certainly important enough, and screwed up often enough to allow for recording devices to be installed in every office and conference room in Washington.

But, that's the aptitude of your average politician people. The guy couldn't even see that argument coming.

hslightnin 11-20-2009 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 715058)
if ALPA has the balls to even threaten illegal action.

ALPA? Balls? come on man you know better then that.

nigelcobalt 11-20-2009 09:22 PM

So this would be the "PP A$$ ACT"?

Gofish 11-21-2009 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 715058)
if ALPA has the balls to even threaten illegal action.

It doesn't.


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