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Originally Posted by aa73
(Post 718155)
Landing with anything less than flaps 30 at AA is usually reserved for emergencies or strong winds... I wasn't aware other airlines landed with less.
Lower power settings on final, way fewer overspeeds. And it only increases the calculated landing roll about 200 feet. Like they taught us in the Herk, brakes stop the airplane. When they first came out with the change a couple years ago, I thought they were crazy. After I did a few, preferred 25. There's a few DAL holdouts that still only do 30. |
Originally Posted by OscartheGrouch
(Post 718003)
For Captain Bligh - please state time/date of incident so that I might find some credibility in your post. Otherwise........:rolleyes:.
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Originally Posted by quimby
(Post 717918)
What airline did you say you fly for?
Delta it is. Glad you guys have a spotless safety record. :rolleyes: Didn't a Delta a/c recently operate at about 130 kts on a taxiway? |
Originally Posted by OscartheGrouch
(Post 718003)
afraid to taxi faster than 20 kts.(:eek:)
SWA has a linear flow generally, which means a few minutes saved here and there could help. If you are referring to my post, it was 30 knots that scares me:D. Again, I am not talking about any one carrier. I see many different airlines at speeds that just don't make sense to me. Most accidents/incidents I have seen in the last thirty years, have happened on the airport. The linear flow thing you mention sheds a little light. Like I said earlier, two minutes isn't worth it to me. Risk reward and all... I do operate in a hub and spoke system though. Cheers |
Originally Posted by aa73
(Post 718155)
Landing with anything less than flaps 30 at AA is usually reserved for emergencies or strong winds... I wasn't aware other airlines landed with less.
AA does have the RRs. Couple of my friends who flew the TWA birds (Pratts) did say they decelerate quicker than ours, probably due to the bigger engine cowling (RRs are much more streamlined.) Not sure about the idle speeds. Also, not sure if your (DL) 757s all have winglets.... all of ours are done, and believe you me when I say the sucker doesn't slow down. |
Originally Posted by Readback
(Post 718097)
You have not been paying attention to what I've been saying. AA only taxis slow when there are contract negotiations ongoing. Once the negotiations are over, it's normal taxi.
Clear enough. Once your negotiations are finished you will see what I'm talking about.;) |
Okay, so back to the OP question....
Many times we ask for a goofy runway for unusual performance reasons, some I may only partially understand (some quirk to the climb out, runway gradient, temporary obstacles, requirements of a departure). Sometimes it is an added margin of safety. Sometimes we ask for a goofy runway for an abnormality. Sometimes we ask for a a short cut if traffic permits and courtesy allows. And a small number of jerks ask for a goofy runway to get to the hotel, or a jump seat, or home a few minutes quicker and blame in on "performance". Taxi speeds vary based on company procedures (we changed ours recently to allow the FO to stay heads up rather than heads down running a checklist so we are probably taxiing faster), wx, traffic, and the emotions/attitudes/experience of the individual holding the tiller. |
Originally Posted by SomedayRJ
(Post 718259)
Nor I - I would assume that the lower the touchdown speed the better for the brakes and such.
Isn't approach idle also intended to ensure sufficient pneumatic flow for TAI use? (that is, approach idle also gets selected when any TAI switch is on—thus, it would also be an RR 'feature') Some of the DL 757s do—the ex-TWA machines certainly all do. I don't recall if the plan is to refit all of them. From what I'm told, the wingletted machines are even harder to slow down than the conventional 752s. 1. Carbon brakes wear more by the cycle than from speed at application. All our carbon brake equipped aircraft (all 757s and the 767ERs) utilize flaps 25 and idle reverse whenever possible. The fuel savings really adds up... 2. When TAI is selected, idle increases to compensate. Otherwise it's at normal flight idle. 3. There is only a minute difference between the wingletted planes and non wingletted. If you really looked at it you could tell a slight difference with the winglet planes not wanting to slow down or descend as much but you've really got to be looking for it...and reserve fuel is a couple hundred pounds less. |
Originally Posted by FlyJSH
(Post 718279)
And a small number of jerks ask for a goofy runway to get to the hotel, or a jump seat, or home a few minutes quicker and blame in on "performance". Sincerely, The Jerk |
Originally Posted by Captain Bligh
(Post 718230)
Whatever...
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