My buddy got a DUI; problem?
01-05-2010 | 03:37 AM
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My buddy got a DUI; problem?
He's a 30+ yr vet at a legacy. No prior, clean record, etc. I haven't looked at the new FAR about DUI updated this past fall by the FAA, but
does anyone have direct knowledge about what he can expect? I know he gets 180 days to report it and his next medical he's got to fill in that disclaimer.
Any advice, encouragement would be appreciated. Be safe out there guys!
does anyone have direct knowledge about what he can expect? I know he gets 180 days to report it and his next medical he's got to fill in that disclaimer.
Any advice, encouragement would be appreciated. Be safe out there guys!
01-05-2010 | 03:52 AM
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He needs to report it. If he does not report it the FAA will pursue action. The point behind this new requirement is to catch those that need help. If he is a guy that just screwed up the FAA still understands that.
Simply put he needs to put it on his form, but what he needs to right now is with rigorous honesty, ask himself if he really does have a problem. If he does, then he needs to talk to his AME, his union HIMS program and go get an assessment. What that assessment determines, will determine what happens next.
One way or another a few boxes need to be checked.
Simply put he needs to put it on his form, but what he needs to right now is with rigorous honesty, ask himself if he really does have a problem. If he does, then he needs to talk to his AME, his union HIMS program and go get an assessment. What that assessment determines, will determine what happens next.
One way or another a few boxes need to be checked.
01-05-2010 | 04:44 AM
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A note of caution, from the "Legal Brief" column in AOPA mag.
The FAA does not consider the section that you would note the DUI on your medical application as notification. You must notify them directly or they will pursue it.
Good luck to your friend.
The FAA does not consider the section that you would note the DUI on your medical application as notification. You must notify them directly or they will pursue it.
Good luck to your friend.
01-05-2010 | 04:45 AM
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I agree Diver, but there are some that do not need HIMS per se.
What I outlined above is the first three steps of a HIMS program. Call ALPA, Assessment, tell your AME. Those are what he needs to do before he reports it.
What I outlined above is the first three steps of a HIMS program. Call ALPA, Assessment, tell your AME. Those are what he needs to do before he reports it.
01-05-2010 | 04:48 AM
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Agreed, but he needs to call his HIMS committee and they will direct his course of action.
01-05-2010 | 04:49 AM
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A DUI (alcohol incident) does not necessarily make one an alcoholic nor an automatic HIMS participant. Poor judgement to be sure, but not automatically make one an alcoholic according to all the training have had with the military and talking to medical Doctors. HIMS is a lifelong program and in any case, might be wise to be evaluated.
FAA reporting requirements are very seperate from the HIMS program. All airline pilots should do some independent study of the HIMS program. You might want to understand the scope and aims of the program. Great program, but need to understand the goals and process.
FAA reporting requirements are very seperate from the HIMS program. All airline pilots should do some independent study of the HIMS program. You might want to understand the scope and aims of the program. Great program, but need to understand the goals and process.
01-05-2010 | 04:54 AM
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I'm giving him a lot of encouragement and he's actually flying a trip today.
I doubt he has a problem with alcohol, the incident was on New Year's Eve/Day, but I do plan on taking him to dinner when he gets back from Europe and having a heart to heart.
Thanks again for all advice and encouragement.
In related news:
United Airlines Pilot Charged With Being Over Alcohol Limit - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com
Be safe out there guys.
01-05-2010 | 05:14 AM
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The best way to stop the faa from looking is to be proactive and face it head on.
Talking to ALPA and then doing what they suggest is important.
Having an assessment does not automatically give you entry in to HIMS. All it does is lets a medical professional asses you and see if there is an issue. If not you are free to go about your life. If so, then you are doing the most proactive thing you can do and the FAA will note this.
Talking to ALPA and then doing what they suggest is important.
Having an assessment does not automatically give you entry in to HIMS. All it does is lets a medical professional asses you and see if there is an issue. If not you are free to go about your life. If so, then you are doing the most proactive thing you can do and the FAA will note this.
01-05-2010 | 05:26 AM
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Having an assessment does not automatically give you entry in to HIMS. All it does is lets a medical professional asses you and see if there is an issue. If not you are free to go about your life. If so, then you are doing the most proactive thing you can do and the FAA will note this.
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