Why don't we hear this from ALPA!??
03-10-2010 | 09:36 AM
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Why don't we hear this from ALPA!??
ALPA has a major conflict of interest... ALPA has signed these below standard CBA's. ALPA has in fact caused this mess! Will they ever be able to clean it up?
http://www.capapilots.org/Legislativ...ing_Policy.pdf
CAPA Position: CAPA does not support any restrictions on a pilot’s personal off duty time. Commuting has never been a problem until recently when the airlines have dramatically reduced the qualifications and compensation of new hire pilots. This change has brought into the industry pilots who often do not have the means to self police their own rest needs. The cost of a hotel room can be an insurmountable burden to a pilot only earning $17,000 per year. The perceived problem with commuting is often another symptom of the race to the bottom in pilot compensation, qualification and experience. If we take steps to put professional pilots back in the cockpit, who are compensated at a level commensurate with the tremendous responsibilities they shoulder, we will solve this and many other problems within the industry.
PS CAPA's letter about the CVR bill (s 3048) is a much better argument than ALPA's was...
http://www.capapilots.org/legislativ...points_cvr.pdf
http://www.capapilots.org/Legislativ...ing_Policy.pdf
CAPA Position: CAPA does not support any restrictions on a pilot’s personal off duty time. Commuting has never been a problem until recently when the airlines have dramatically reduced the qualifications and compensation of new hire pilots. This change has brought into the industry pilots who often do not have the means to self police their own rest needs. The cost of a hotel room can be an insurmountable burden to a pilot only earning $17,000 per year. The perceived problem with commuting is often another symptom of the race to the bottom in pilot compensation, qualification and experience. If we take steps to put professional pilots back in the cockpit, who are compensated at a level commensurate with the tremendous responsibilities they shoulder, we will solve this and many other problems within the industry.
PS CAPA's letter about the CVR bill (s 3048) is a much better argument than ALPA's was...
http://www.capapilots.org/legislativ...points_cvr.pdf
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03-10-2010 | 09:57 AM
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03-10-2010 | 10:04 AM
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Before ALPA signed these "below standard" contracts, mainline MECs outsourced their flying to rid the property of the dreaded B Scale. ALPA National went along under threat of decertification.
We mainline pilots then used our power to negotiate branded flying to keep the regionals away from the negotiating table, making sure management enjoyed profits from the race to the bottom at the regionals. For their part the regional MEC's have to participate in the race, or see their airline shrunk out from under them.
The mainline MECs traded one pilot's job security and progression for another pilot's pay. Then they partnered with management to share the spoils of outsourcing. In turn management drove the Companies into the ground, wiped away the Contract 2000 type deals and ALPA got nearly nothing for selling out job security & career progression.
Before we blame ALPA for this "conflict of interest" we need to fully realize where this problem came from ... because that is where it has to be fixed. Union facilitated outsourcing is a failed concept.
At the core of this issue is mainline MEC's finding an economic model they are comfortable with to perform their own flying.
... and a point of historical interest, ALPA has refused to sign a sub standard contract. Look up CC Air.
03-10-2010 | 10:21 AM
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Eh' it is the typical pilot fonetik spelin. It is like watching Vinny Gambini practice law.
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03-10-2010 | 01:06 PM
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I'm not sure a CAPA Press Release is how to make your point with the USAPA on the banner. After all, US Air holds the pole position on selling out their junior pilots to a regional deal and then watching them get clobbered for being "off the property" during the America West merger.
Before ALPA signed these "below standard" contracts, mainline MECs outsourced their flying to rid the property of the dreaded B Scale. ALPA National went along under threat of decertification.
We mainline pilots then used our power to negotiate branded flying to keep the regionals away from the negotiating table, making sure management enjoyed profits from the race to the bottom at the regionals. For their part the regional MEC's have to participate in the race, or see their airline shrunk out from under them.
The mainline MECs traded one pilot's job security and progression for another pilot's pay. Then they partnered with management to share the spoils of outsourcing. In turn management drove the Companies into the ground, wiped away the Contract 2000 type deals and ALPA got nearly nothing for selling out job security & career progression.
Before we blame ALPA for this "conflict of interest" we need to fully realize where this problem came from ... because that is where it has to be fixed. Union facilitated outsourcing is a failed concept.
At the core of this issue is mainline MEC's finding an economic model they are comfortable with to perform their own flying.
... and a point of historical interest, ALPA has refused to sign a sub standard contract. Look up CC Air.
Before ALPA signed these "below standard" contracts, mainline MECs outsourced their flying to rid the property of the dreaded B Scale. ALPA National went along under threat of decertification.
We mainline pilots then used our power to negotiate branded flying to keep the regionals away from the negotiating table, making sure management enjoyed profits from the race to the bottom at the regionals. For their part the regional MEC's have to participate in the race, or see their airline shrunk out from under them.
The mainline MECs traded one pilot's job security and progression for another pilot's pay. Then they partnered with management to share the spoils of outsourcing. In turn management drove the Companies into the ground, wiped away the Contract 2000 type deals and ALPA got nearly nothing for selling out job security & career progression.
Before we blame ALPA for this "conflict of interest" we need to fully realize where this problem came from ... because that is where it has to be fixed. Union facilitated outsourcing is a failed concept.
At the core of this issue is mainline MEC's finding an economic model they are comfortable with to perform their own flying.
... and a point of historical interest, ALPA has refused to sign a sub standard contract. Look up CC Air.
That's a good summary.
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