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bgmann 04-20-2010 03:28 PM

Forecast for AA pilot retirements to 2025
 
American Airlines pilots turning 65 in each year through 2025

Retirements by year

Year # Retirements
2012 5
2013 138
2014 220
2015 277
2016 273
2017 300
2018 377
2019 477
2020 575
2021 650
2022 699
2023 754
2024 759
2025 779

FlyAK 04-20-2010 03:43 PM

Ha, what about for the next year and a half? Or... you could say it a different way:

5 over the next 2.5 years. Or:

1 every 6 months or so. Or:

Nevermind, just gets more of depressing the more you think about it...

Thanks for the good news.

bgmann 04-20-2010 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by FlyAK (Post 798880)
Ha, what about for the next year and a half? Or... you could say it a different way:

5 over the next 2.5 years. Or:

1 every 6 months or so. Or:

Nevermind, just gets more of depressing the more you think about it...

Thanks for the good news.

I didnt publish this, our union did. I also wish it had numbers for recent future. (apparently not many if its five 2 years from now)

acl65pilot 04-20-2010 06:09 PM

Hey I was depressed at our numbers, but man, you need to merge with LLC-East to up em numbers. I keed I keed. :D

CANAM 04-20-2010 06:22 PM

How many pilots does AA have on furlough? Simple math dictates they won't be hiring for a long time. Hang in there everybody, that shortage will be here someday. Just seven or more eight years.

Eric Stratton 04-20-2010 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 798945)
Hey I was depressed at our numbers, but man, you need to merge with LLC-East to up em numbers. I keed I keed. :D

I thought with the merger you guys were suppose to have a steady stream of retirements? First nwa and then delta.

Superpilot92 04-20-2010 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by CANAM (Post 798957)
How many pilots does AA have on furlough? Simple math dictates they won't be hiring for a long time. Hang in there everybody, that shortage will be here someday. Just seven or more eight years.

You assume everyone will go to 65 which is very unlikely. Avg will be 62.5ish


Originally Posted by Eric Stratton (Post 798961)
I thought with the merger you guys were suppose to have a steady stream of retirements? First nwa and then delta.

We're already seeing a constant stream of retirements. It will only increase from this point forward. We're 2 1/2 years into the age 65 change so most airlines should start seeing the retirements start. More so at the airlines that still have pensions.

acl65pilot 04-20-2010 07:05 PM

Eric. As Super says we do. I will move up 8%+ a year starting in a few years, it is just getting there that hurts. I and super will go from mid level FO's to Widebody Captains in a period of five years.

AceOnTheRiver 04-20-2010 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by bgmann (Post 798869)
American Airlines pilots turning 65 in each year through 2025

Retirements by year

Year # Retirements
2012 5
2013 138
2014 220
2015 277
2016 273
2017 300
2018 377
2019 477
2020 575
2021 650
2022 699
2023 754
2024 759
2025 779

Whats the B fund at now? I bet if the market keeps going up we will see the rats leave the ship.

Beagle Pilot 04-20-2010 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by AceOnTheRiver (Post 798983)
Whats the B fund at now? I bet if the market keeps going up we will see the rats leave the ship.

Isn't part of their retirement based upon their highest pay in the last five years? Is it the highest or the average of the highest?

If it's the highest, it would seem to be better to wait for the new contract since I'm sure it will involve a healthy pay raise. I'm sure some of those guys are getting a little anxious since they are now into year four(?) of negotiations.


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