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Originally Posted by 757Driver
(Post 804081)
Not good enough I'm afraid. I say let the current contracts run their course then revert to the 50 seat scope with all 50+ seat flying done by mainline UAL Pilots.
Can't figure out why so many guys are so willing to sell themselves short all the time? |
Originally Posted by Fritzthepilot
(Post 804165)
Well, this is one thing a CAL and UAL pilot can agree on. Let the contracts unwind and then we take take the 50+ planes back. It's time to stand for something. Together.
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A merger is able to happen without doing anything with scope...as far as giving up scope. The pilots/ALPA will have more control in this than most realize. I still think it will be very difficult to get back what has been given away.
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Originally Posted by contrail67
(Post 804387)
A merger is able to happen without doing anything with scope...as far as giving up scope. The pilots/ALPA will have more control in this than most realize. I still think it will be very difficult to get back what has been given away.
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The ALPA survey we did in the last month gave everyone a starting "say". Lots of questions that are appicable to this situation....not sure if you are a CAL of UAL pilot...did CAL get a survey too?
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Does anyone know if the UAL/CAL MEC's are already engaged in Seniority and Joint Contract talks?
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Originally Posted by DAL330drvr
(Post 804415)
Does anyone know if the UAL/CAL MEC's are already engaged in Seniority and Joint Contract talks?
As to the scope debate and how it relates to contracts - Does it matter whether a FFD operator departs with a 50 seat or 70 seat airplane? If not perhaps CALs scope is within reach. Otherwise, not one more 70 seater than is operating today. |
Look at the range the 70 seaters have now. What airplane has it replaced? UAL has put crj-700s on old 737 runs where mainline flew. So I do think there is a difference between 70 and 50 seats.
The 50's can barely make it above 30k and have all kinds of weight issues. They should be "feed" not destination flights: I.e. Sbn-Ord, pia-Ord not Sfo-Sat, or Lax-Dfw. |
Originally Posted by REAL Pilot
(Post 804390)
Speaking of ALPO, it would be nice if the MEC would throw out some info on just what our position is.
You do a job that sometimes requires you to focus on doing important tasks as well as possible, without informing the passengers exactly what you're doing...and why. Maybe the MECs are handling this correctly right now, and you're too stuck in the passenger mode to appreciate what its like up front? Not a criticism; just a thought. |
Originally Posted by avi8tor4life
(Post 804535)
Look at the range the 70 seaters have now. What airplane has it replaced? UAL has put crj-700s on old 737 runs where mainline flew. So I do think there is a difference between 70 and 50 seats.
The 50's can barely make it above 30k and have all kinds of weight issues. They should be "feed" not destination flights: I.e. Sbn-Ord, pia-Ord not Sfo-Sat, or Lax-Dfw. |
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