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SOTeric 05-01-2010 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by REAL Pilot (Post 804515)
If you really want to talk about the 80's, please call my father. He was a strike til the bitter end Eastern Pilot. If todays pilots had the same intestinal fortitude and principles, the industry would be dramatically different.

What do you think of Continentals impact on the industry during the 80's that reverberated for decades?

Carpe Diem
I'll second this statement!

Skybo 05-01-2010 04:38 PM
I also recall a play on the CAL marketing slogan, "One Airline Can Make a Difference". During the late eighties, the UAL pilot changed it to "One less Airline Can Make a Difference". Now you need Continental to save you guys? Yeah, right!

REAL Pilot 05-01-2010 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by Skybo (Post 804822)
I also recall a play on the CAL marketing slogan, "One Airline Can Make a Difference". During the late eighties, the UAL pilot changed it to "One less Airline Can Make a Difference". Now you need Continental to save you guys? Yeah, right!
The point is.... there is now use in throwing rocks when you live in a glass house. Every airline, every pilot group has skeletons in the closet. Would you like to discuss the historical injustices from the Delta guys, the American guys, the USAir guys etc. The bigger issue is how we can make gains going forward. No United guy is pleased with the present circumstances and its definitely not under the presumption we were hired under.

So, we can sit around and b&tch about it, or do something in an attempt to counter the forces that are reshaping the industry.

Carpe Diem

757Driver 05-01-2010 05:51 PM
On a side note,

Rumor floating around CAL is we might see a mass exodus of scabs to retirements due to the merger. The ones I've spoken with are terrified as to how they will be treated by their UAL breathren.

Ottopilot 05-01-2010 06:47 PM
Originally Posted by REAL Pilot (Post 804515)
If you really want to talk about the 80's, please call my father. He was a strike til the bitter end Eastern Pilot. If todays pilots had the same intestinal fortitude and principles, the industry would be dramatically different.

What do you think of Continentals impact on the industry during the 80's that reverberated for decades?

Carpe Diem
I wasn't refering to scabs, I was refering to the fight over Denver.

Ottopilot 05-01-2010 06:49 PM
Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 804840)
On a side note,

Rumor floating around CAL is we might see a mass exodus of scabs to retirements due to the merger. The ones I've spoken with are terrified as to how they will be treated by their UAL breathren.
23 years too late, but I won't miss them.

Captain Bligh 05-01-2010 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 804840)
On a side note,

Rumor floating around CAL is we might see a mass exodus of scabs to retirements due to the merger. The ones I've spoken with are terrified as to how they will be treated by their UAL breathren.
B.S. flag thrown and thrown high! The only thing I've heard scabs say is how they've always wanted to fly the 747-400. If anyone thinks scabs will run, or not be protected you're dreaming. Former CAL mgt protecting scabs is just one way the new mgt team will make this new monster float.

carpe seniority

SUPERfluf 05-01-2010 07:01 PM
Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 804840)
On a side note,

Rumor floating around CAL is we might see a mass exodus of scabs to retirements due to the merger. The ones I've spoken with are terrified as to how they will be treated by their UAL breathren.
WOW, seriously? If its true, that's the best news I've heard in years.

Skybo 05-01-2010 07:29 PM
I'll go along with this merger as long as the UAL pilots vote out ALPA. They have not helped either pilot group.

Monkeyfly 05-01-2010 08:41 PM
Originally Posted by 757Driver (Post 804840)
On a side note,

Rumor floating around CAL is we might see a mass exodus of scabs to retirements due to the merger. The ones I've spoken with are terrified as to how they will be treated by their UAL breathren.
That gives me an idea on SLI...
Put scabs from both airlines on the bottom of the list!
Wouldn't that make a lot of pilots happy?:p


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